we get Comp for any hours worked over our scheduled 160 hours/28 day pay cycle, generally we can carry it for up to 6 months "on the books" at which point it must be used. Note that time comped can only be from fires, other duties are usually offset within the pay cycle. OT only occurs on certain emergencies (usually a state of Disaster/Emergency) where the state is going to get reimbursed from FEMA for all expenses
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08-15-2010, 09:45 PM #21"If you can't be a good example, the you'll just have to be a terrible warning."
08-16-2010, 09:18 AM #22
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- Sep 2006
- Northeast Coast
The rules have changed some in the last 10 years, or at least have been more defined by the courts to give the employer more discretion in denying comp use when it causes more OT or is not scheduled in a reasonable time in advance. This was alsways our issue with comp time use creating more comp time accrual, by leaving shifts short and requiring many off duty recalls that open all off duty personnel up to OT accrual. One FF could take 24 hours of comp time, leaving the shift short so that every call created a recall, to which multiple off duty FFer's would respond and accrue more comp time. This snowball reached larger proportions until the Union/Admin agreed to buy out comp every 6 months down to 48 hrs. So at the month mark you start as 48 hrs or less (your option) and with a handful of cash! Nice Christmas club in early December and vacation money in June. Unless you're smart enough to hold your own money in an interest bearing account for those times!
08-16-2010, 11:20 AM #23
08-16-2010, 04:26 PM #24
I've never met a firefighter whose department did this... But if you read FLSA, it states that in order for comp. time to be awarded to employees, the employer and employees must first reach an agreement or understanding. This is interesting because it applies to all departments -- not just those with unions, contracts or memorandums of understanding.
The IAFF recently published a new guide to understanding the FLSA. I believe it's available to union members through IAFF.org.
08-16-2010, 05:27 PM #25
I imagine you're dying to know more...
If you want to get in some light reading, CLICK HERE for the Department of Labor's page about the Fair Labor Standards Act (which includes overtime and compensatory time). If you're looking for more light reading on the matter, here are some additional links with good (and somewhat easy to understand) information on FLSA.
08-17-2010, 04:55 PM #26
- Join Date
- Jun 2008
- RDU, NC
We earn comp time for working on committees outside our normal duties. Currently, I serve on a Ladder Company Ops Committee and earn comp at time and a half. I only take comp time off when there are vacancies on the vacation list, where some others don't care about staffing and take it whenever they want.
We get paid OT at time and a half for anything over our monthly total in the 28 day cycle.
08-17-2010, 07:45 PM #27
Monthly cycles is a whole different subject.Logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead.
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