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    Quote Originally Posted by laddertruckgoes View Post
    Hey man...

    You can hate Quints all day long...

    But when our Engine is out of service... That quint sure does a good job picking up the slack. If we had 2 pumpers... we would probably have a true truck.
    Like this?
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    Arrg,Can't post the pics. Go to our Smeal platform post #116&117. That's for Buff. T.C.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laddertruckgoes View Post
    Hey man...

    You can hate Quints all day long...

    But when our Engine is out of service... That quint sure does a good job picking up the slack. If we had 2 pumpers... we would probably have a true truck.
    Sooner or later someone will figure a great way to save some more money is to eliminate your one engine, since you have a pump on the ladder. And then when your quint's pump is out of service, what do you have: Vacation? Hopefully you're people holding the purse stringers are smarter than this, but it happens elsewhere..And the only thing you can count on is people trying to save their Benjamin's!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFDACM02 View Post
    Sooner or later someone will figure a great way to save some more money is to eliminate your one engine, since you have a pump on the ladder. And then when your quint's pump is out of service, what do you have: Vacation? Hopefully you're people holding the purse stringers are smarter than this, but it happens elsewhere..And the only thing you can count on is people trying to save their Benjamin's!
    Buy the right pump and it won't be out of Service 'til Waaay after your retirement. This from a guy that bought an ALF (hehe). Just admit it,it WORKS for some of us. By the way,when are you coming down? Corin's headed this way in a little bit. Ride with him and you won't get LOST. Hehe T.C.

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    5 firefighters mounted in brackets and fastened to the apparatus
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    on our quint we carry:

    16' roof
    14' roof
    24' extension
    35' extension
    14' extension
    10' attic ladder

    Grand total of 113' of ground ladders

    But wait we get 4 quints on a full assignment, so on the first alarm we get 339' of ground ladders. (provided each companies quint is inservice)

    upgraded to a working job add two more quints

    So each working fire we get "drum roll please" 565' of ground ladders. (once again provided everyones quint is in service due to an ageing fleet, usually one company will be on an engine)

    Yea we have plenty of ground ladders!

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    Thank you all again for your replies!

    Here's a preview of what we have comming...

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    I didn't know primer came in green????
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    Quote Originally Posted by laddertruckgoes View Post
    Thank you all again for your replies!

    Here's a preview of what we have comming...

    Hey, is that a steel aerial? You don't see many single axle Pierce 75' steel aerials anymore. Also do you know if it comes in any more body configurations (like this but with a steel aerial)?

    http://www.piercemfg.com/DeliveryDet...a-9de02489c05d

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddertruckgoes View Post
    Thank you all again for your replies!

    Here's a preview of what we have comming...

    Hey, is that a steel aerial? You don't see many single axle Pierce 75' steel aerials anymore. Also do you know if it comes in any other body configurations (like this but with a steel aerial)?

    http://www.piercemfg.com/DeliveryDet...a-9de02489c05d

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    There was a multitude of body choices we had to chose from or they gave us the option of planning out our own. This rig originally only had steps up one side which wouldve given the opposite side a much wide compartment. Due to our narrow streets and parking issues we went with access on both sides.

    Pierce also offers access up the rear which leave both sides open for compartments. The flip side of that is that our ladders would've made the side compartments much more shallow. After figuring out what we were carrying, this configuration will (hopefully) work out the best for us.

    This is a Steel 75' Aerial, 500lbs tip load. NFPA "Ladder Company" ladders, 400GWT, 2000GPM Waterous, 15kw Harrison HydraGen, 1000' 5", 3 Crosslays, a Bumper Line, Short raised roof and short extended cab. 425 Cummins and Alison Transmission. Tak-4 front end (with lowered control arms), 33.5 Meritor Rear.

    If you guys want I can post more pictures as we go. Once it's finally delivered I'll do the full "expose'."

    Any questions never hesitate to ask!

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    61 - After looking at your link, yes we had a version of that.

    Remeber the Steel Aerial has a different turntable/hinge point/lift cylinder arrangement then the aluminum. This causes the Steel Aerial turntable to sit lower on the rig, which supposedly helps with the overall COG. Also when looking at ours, we had Pierce make our rig as low as possible which made he turntable sit almost 6" lower then normal. Our rig has an 11'3" travel height. When you look at the ladder sitting over the cab, the 12" raised roof is notched, plus the flat part of the roof is notched an additional 2.5". Pierce really did a lot to make this one of the most compact "Quints" they've built lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    I didn't know primer came in green????
    Proof that grass and rigs may in fact be greener on the other side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laddertruckgoes View Post
    Proof that grass and rigs may in fact be greener on the other side.
    Isn't your rescue engine Lime Green -or - Yellow ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddertruckgoes View Post
    There was a multitude of body choices we had to chose from or they gave us the option of planning out our own. This rig originally only had steps up one side which wouldve given the opposite side a much wide compartment. Due to our narrow streets and parking issues we went with access on both sides.

    Pierce also offers access up the rear which leave both sides open for compartments. The flip side of that is that our ladders would've made the side compartments much more shallow. After figuring out what we were carrying, this configuration will (hopefully) work out the best for us.

    This is a Steel 75' Aerial, 500lbs tip load. NFPA "Ladder Company" ladders, 400GWT, 2000GPM Waterous, 15kw Harrison HydraGen, 1000' 5", 3 Crosslays, a Bumper Line, Short raised roof and short extended cab. 425 Cummins and Alison Transmission. Tak-4 front end (with lowered control arms), 33.5 Meritor Rear.

    If you guys want I can post more pictures as we go. Once it's finally delivered I'll do the full "expose'."

    Any questions never hesitate to ask!

    Addendum:

    61 - After looking at your link, yes we had a version of that.

    Remeber the Steel Aerial has a different turntable/hinge point/lift cylinder arrangement then the aluminum. This causes the Steel Aerial turntable to sit lower on the rig, which supposedly helps with the overall COG. Also when looking at ours, we had Pierce make our rig as low as possible which made he turntable sit almost 6" lower then normal. Our rig has an 11'3" travel height. When you look at the ladder sitting over the cab, the 12" raised roof is notched, plus the flat part of the roof is notched an additional 2.5". Pierce really did a lot to make this one of the most compact "Quints" they've built lately.
    Looks like the outrigger configuration would also impact body configuration between the steel and aluminum equipped units. Nice looking rig by the way.
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    I also wonder about tank size. It seems a lot of single axle Pierce aluminum ladders have 500 gallon tanks, but you never see more than 400 gallons on a single axle steel ladder. (I assume this is a weight issue)

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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    Like most NFPA standards, the ground ladder standard for truck companies is a fooking joke.
    def. agree!

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    This is the list from our new truck... Y so much ***** you may ask....we use all of it. On a good fire, our truck always seemes to get stripped....always. Pluss there are alot of things we use that we only had one or two of but have the need for a few more, the idea was to totaly equip it once for now and in the future. So far so good.

    Ground Ladders
    Two (2) Alco-Lite FL-10 Folding Attic Ladders
    One (1) Alco-Lite AEL-14 Attic Extension Ladder
    Two (2) Alco-Lite PRL-16 Roof Ladders
    Two (2) Alco-Lite PRL-20 Roof Ladders
    Two (2) Alco-Lite PEL-28 Extension Ladders
    Two (2) Alco-Lite PEL-35 Extension Ladders
    Two (2) Alco-Lite PEL3-16 Extension Ladder
    One (1) 6' Double Sided step Ladder, Type-1AA
    One (1) 4' Double Sided step Ladder, Type-1AA
    One (1) 2' Double Sided step Ladder, Type-1AA

    Hose, Fittings, Appliances & Tools
    One (1) Harrington 30 dergree Stortz Elbow Model H30E-RL
    One (1) Harrington 5” Stortz to 4” Stortz adapter Model HSTS50-40s
    One (1) Akron Brass Gated Siamese Model 2583
    Two (2) Akron Brass Spanner Wrench Sets with Holder Model 2448
    Two (2) Akron Brass Large Spanner Wrench Sets with Holder Model SS-MP

    Thermal Imaging Camera
    MSA Evolution 5200

    Fire Extinguishers
    Two (2) Ansul Red Line 20lb Cartridge Operated Class A, B, C Extinguisher
    Four (4) Amerex Model 250 2.5 Gal. Water / Foam Extinguishers
    Four (4) Firehooks Unlimited Model CH-312 Water Can Harnesses

    Hand Lights
    Six (6) Streamlight Fire Vulcan vehicle mounted 12V, with chargers, mounted


    EMS Equipment
    One (1) Oxygen Bottle Kit
    One (1) BLS First-In-Bag
    One (1) Junkin Stokes Basket Stretcher, Model SAF-200

    Miscellaneous Hand Tools and Equipment
    One (1) Pair of Binoculars
    One (1) Nupla Long Handel Fiberglass Spade Shovel
    One (1) Nupla Long Handel Fiberglass Flat Shovel
    One (1) Nupla Short Handel Fiberglass Spade Shovel
    Four (4) Nupla Short Handel Fiberglass Flat Shovel
    Six (6) Toro Spring Buckets, Model 29210
    Four (4) Hay Bailing Hooks
    One (1) Sprinkler Head Kit
    One (1) Klein Tools Bolt Cutters – 36” Heavy Duty #63536
    One (1) Klein Tools Bolt Cutter – 42” Heavy Duty #63542
    One (1) Klein Tools 32” Cable Cutters, #63045
    One (1) Hit Tools 36” Wire Rope Cutter, Model 22-WC36

    Tarps
    Six (6) Zico SC 182-Y 12’ X 14’ Salvage Tarp – Yellow
    Six (6) Zico ZR-3 3’ X 18’ Hallway Runners – Red


    Salvage and Sump Pumps
    Three (3) Prosser 2HP Submersible Pumps w/ 2” discharge and large flat base
    Four (4) Survivair Salvage Masters

    Small Hand Tools
    Two (2) Tool Boxes
    One (1) 8” Cressent Adjustable Wrench
    One (1) 12” Cressent Adjustable Wrench
    One (1) Klein 4” long, Ό” Slotted Screwdriver #602-4
    One (1) Klein 6” long, 5/16” Slotted Screwdriver #602-6
    One (1) Klein 8” long, 3/8” Slotted Screwdriver #602-8
    One (1) Klein 3” #1 Phillips Screwdriver #603-3
    One (1) Klein 4” #2 Phillips Screwdriver #603-4
    One (1) Klein 6” #3 Phillips Screwdriver #603-6
    One (1) Klein Magnetic Screwdriver w/ 32 piece Tamperproof Bit Set #32510
    One (1) Klein Journeyman 2000 Series High Leverage Diagonal-Cutting Pliers
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    One (1) Klein Journeyman 2000 Series High Leverage Side-Cutting Pliers
    #J2000-9NE
    One (1) Klein Journeyman 2000 Series Long-Nose Cutting Pliers #J203-8
    One (1) Klein Journeyman 2000 Series High-Leverage Cable Cutter #J63050
    One (1) Klein Aviation Snips, Offset Straight (yellow handle) #2102S
    One (1) Klein Aviation Snips, Offset Left (red handle) #2100L
    One (1) Klein Aviation Snips, Offset Right (green handle) #2101R
    One (1) Irwin Vise-Grip 5” Curved Jaw Locking Pliers
    One (1) Irwin Vise-Grip 10” Curved Jaw Locking Pliers
    One (1) Channellock 6 ½ “Tongue and Groove Pliers
    One (1) Channellock 10 “Tongue and Groove Pliers
    Two (2) Stanley Wonder Bar2 Flat Pry Bar
    One (1) Stanley Fat Max High Tension Hacksaw
    Four (4) Stanley Fat Max Locking Retractable Utility Knives
    Two (2) Arrow T50 Staple Guns
    Two (2) Arrow Hammer Tackers
    Two (2) Estwing 20oz Metal handled Rip Claw Hammers
    One (1) Fire-Mark Tools 3 lb. Sledge Hammer, Model FSH-3-8
    One (1) 25 lb Box 1 ½” Button Cap Nails
    One (2) Stanley FatMax 30 Ft. Tape Measure
    One (1) Stanley FatMax 100 Ft. Tape Measure
    One (1) Klein Grip-It Hex Key Set, Standard, Model 70574
    One (1) Klein Grip-It Hex Key Set, Metric, Model 70572
    One (1) Klein Folding TORX Key Set, Model 70586
    One (1) Rigid 8” Straight Pipe Wrench
    One (1) Rigid 12” Straight Pipe Wrench
    One (1) Rigid 18” Straight Pipe Wrench



    Power Tools
    One (1) DeWalt 28 Volt Lithium Ion Combo Kit #DCX5401
    (Hammer Drill/Driver, Circular Saw, Reciprocating Saw, Flash Light, 1 hour Charger, 2 Battery Packs)
    One (1) DeWalt 28 Volt Lithium Ion Compact Impact Wrench Kit #DC810KL
    One (1) DeWalt 28 Volt Litihum Ion Charger, Model #DC9000
    Two (2) (additional) Dewalt 28 Volt Litihum Ion Battery Packs, Model #DC9280
    One (1) Porter Cable 110 Volt Reciprocation Saw, Model #9748

    Fire Hooks
    Four (4) Fire-Mark Tools 6’ Steel New York Roof Hooks, Model FRH-6
    Two (2) Fire-Mark Tools 8’ Steel New York Roof Hooks, Model FRH-8
    Two (2) Fire-Mark Tools 10’ Steel New York Roof Hooks, Model FRH-10
    Two (2) Fire-Hooks Unlimited Model 36” FARR-BARR w/o strap and rings
    Two (2) Fire-Mark Tools 40” New York Hook w/ “D” Handel, Model FAP-40-W/D
    Two (2) Fire-Mark Tools 40” Drywall Hook w / “D” Handel, Model FS-40-W/D
    Two (2) Fire-Mark Tools 6’ Arson Trash Hook w/ “D” Handel, Model FRT-6 W/D
    Two (2) Fire-Mark Tools 6’ Boston Rake Hook w/”D” Handel, Model FBR-6 W/D
    Two (2) Fire-Mark Tools 6’ Universal Hook, Model FUH-6

    Forcible Entry Tools
    One (1) Fire-Mark Tools Duck Bill Lock Breaker, Model FPB-11
    One (1) Fire-Mark Tools Hockey Puck Lock Breaker, Model FHP-11
    One (1) Fire-Mark Tools 8 lb. Sledge Hammer, Model FSH-8-8
    One (1) Fire Mark Tools 10 lb. Sledge Hammer, Model FSH-10-8
    Three (3) Fire-Mark Tools Pro-Bar 30” Halligan Bars, Model FPB-30-3
    Two (2) Fire-Mark Tools Pro-Bar 36” Halligan Bars, Model FPB-36-3
    One (1) Fire-Mark Tools Pro-Bar 54” Halligan Bar, Model FPB-54-3
    One (1) Fire-Mark Tools “K”-Tool Kit, Model FKY-7
    Three (3) E-Darley 8 lb. Pick Head Axes, Model AW187
    Two (2) E-Darley 8lb Flat Head Axes, Model AW188
    One (1) Fire-Hooks Unlimited Hydra-Ram w/ carrying case
    One (1) Fire-Mark “R” Tool w/ Carrying Case, Model FRT-7
    One (1) Stanley Fat Max 30” Forcible Entry FUBAR, Model 55-122
    One (1) Fire Mark Tools Elevator Key Set #FEK-10




    Utility Rope
    300 Ft. Rock-N-Rescue ½” (12.5mm) Utility Rope
    Two (2) Rock-N-Rescue Rope Bags, Model B0505 50’ – Yellow
    Two (2) Rock-N-Rescue Rope Bags, Model B1005 100’ – Yellow

    RIT & Large Area Search Equipment
    One (1) RIT 200' Kevlar Group Search Kit With Chicago Bag and Marker System
    One (1) Survivair RIT KIT
    One (1) Rescue TECH 1 4:1 Hauling Kit / 150’ / Kit

    Lighting and Electrical
    Four (4) Rock-N-Rescue 200 ft. Rope Bags with shoulder strap – Orange
    One (1) 400 ft. spool of 10-3 awg stranded wire – Yellow
    Two (2) Tele-Light Portable Generators and Light Kit, Model TEU-2.10D
    Two (2) J. Neils Enterprises Lentry Dual 650 Watt Light System
    Two (2) J. Neils Enterprises Lentry 650 Watt XT Lights
    Four (4) Tele-Light 500 Watt Portable Flood Lights
    Four (4) 500 Watt Junk-O-Lights

    Cutting & VentilationTools
    One (1) Arcair Slice Pack Complete, Model 63-991-002
    Two (2) Stihl MS-460-R Magnum Rescue Chain Saw
    Two (2) Stihl Cutting Depth Limiter Kit # 1128 261 0002
    Two (2) Stihl CutQuik TS 700 Cut Off Saw
    Two (2) Stihl Chain Saw MS 361

    Exhaust Fans
    Two (2) Super-Vac 24” Smoke Ejectors, Model P244SE
    Two (2) RamFan 16” Smoke Ejectors, Model EFC-150
    Two (2) E-Darley Smoke Ejector Holders, Model P780
    Two (2) Sets, E-Darley Hanger Hooks, Model R720

    Positive Pressure Ventilation Fans
    Two (2) Super-Vac 18” PPV Fans, Model 718G4-H
    Two (2) Super-Vac 24” PPV Fans, Model 724G4-H

    Truck Belts
    Fourteen (14) (4M, 4L, 4XL, 2 XXL) Gemtor Pompierr Belts w/ 18” Hook Extension, Model 540

    Miscelanious Items
    Two (2) Steel D.O.T. Approved, “Jerry Can” Style Gas Cans
    Two (2) Northern Tool & Equip. 20” Aluminum Tote Storage Box, Item# 3480026
    One (1) 25’ Air Line
    Six (6) 15” diam. 35mm film canisters (metal)
    Two (2) Wesco Mega Mover Folding Hand Truck
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