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    Hey man...

    You can hate Quints all day long...

    But when our Engine is out of service... That quint sure does a good job picking up the slack. If we had 2 pumpers... we would probably have a true truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    Boston's got em. Philly's got em. FDNY's got em. Newark's got em....Baltimore..And what do these all have in common....


    Drumroll, please.....



    No fooking homosexual quints!
    Yes,yes,yes, Dumbass but LTG has a WHAT coming? DRUM ROLL PLEASE...................A QUINT! Get it? GOOD. Now go lay down. T.C.

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    Buff, FDNY carries 131' of ground ladders -- or at least they did on their '06 rigs.

    http://my.seagrave.com/ContentManage...odel%20(1).PDF

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbren View Post
    Start with NFPA 1901 Chapter 8 Aerial Fire Apparatus:

    Ground Ladders.
    A minimum of 115 ft of ground ladders shall be supplied and installed by the contractor.
    As a minimum, the following types of ladders shall be provided:
    1. One attic ladder
    2. Two straight ladders with folding roof hooks
    3. Two extension ladders

    Aerial fire apparatus shall be equipped with at least the following equipment:
    1. Two 6 lb flathead axes mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
    2. Three 6 lb pickhead axes mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
    3. Four pike poles mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
    4. Two 3 ft to 4 ft plaster hooks with D handles mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
    5. Two crowbars mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
    6. Two claw tools mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
    7. Two 12 lb sledgehammers mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
    8. Four portable hand lights mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
    9. One approved dry chemical portable fire extinguisher with a minimum 80-B:C rating mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
    10. One 2.5 gal or larger water extinguisher mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
    11. One SCBA complying with NFPA 1981 for each assigned seating position, but not fewer than four, mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus or stored in containers supplied by the SCBA manufacturer
    12. One spare SCBA cylinder for each SCBA carried, each mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus or stored in a specially designed storage space(s)
    13. One first aid kit
    14. Six salvage covers, each a minimum size of 12 ft x 18 ft
    15. Four combination spanner wrenches mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
    16. Two scoop shovels mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
    17. One pair of bolt cutters, 24 in. minimum, mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
    18. Four ladder belts meeting the requirements of NFPA 1983, Standard on Fire Service Life Safety Rope and System Components
    19. One 150 ft light-use life safety rope meeting the requirements of NFPA 1983, Standard on Fire Service Life Safety Rope and System Components
    20. One 150 ft general-use life safety rope meeting the requirements of NFPA 1983, Standard on Fire Service Life Safety Rope and System Components
    21. Two 150 ft utility ropes having a breaking strength of at least 5000 lb
    22. One box of tools to include the following:

    1. One hacksaw with three blades
    2. One keyhole saw
    3. One 12 in. pipe wrench
    4. One 24 in. pipe wrench
    5. One ballpeen hammer
    6. One pair of tin snips
    7. One pair of pliers
    8. One pair of lineman's pliers
    9. Assorted types and sizes of screwdrivers
    10. Assorted adjustable wrenches
    11. Assorted combination wrenches

    23. Two wheel chocks, mounted in readily accessible locations, each designed to hold the apparatus, when loaded to its maximum in-service weight, on a 10 percent grade with the transmission in neutral and the parking brake released.
    24. One traffic vest for each seating position, each vest to comply with ANSI/ISEA 207, Standard for High-Visibility Public Safety Vests, and have a five-point breakaway feature that includes two at the shoulders, two at the sides, and one at the front.
    25. Five fluorescent orange traffic cones not less than 28 in. in height, each equipped with a 6 in. retroreflective white band no more than 4 in. from the top of the cone, and an additional 4 in. retroreflective white band 2 in. below the 6 in. band.
    26. Five illuminated warning devices such as highway flares, unless the five fluorescent orange traffic cones have illuminating capabilities
    27. One automatic external defibrillator (AED)



    If the aerial fire apparatus is equipped with a fire pump, the requirements of 8.8.3.1 through 8.8.3.3 shall apply.

    The following equipment shall be provided:

    1. One double female 2.5 in.adapter with National Hose threads, mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
    2. One double male 2.5 in. adapter with National Hose threads, mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
    3. One rubber mallet, for use on suction hose connections, mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
    4. Two hydrant wrenches mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus.

    Add extras after.
    5 firefighters mounted in brackets and fastened to the apparatus

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneL1L View Post
    Buff, FDNY carries 131' of ground ladders -- or at least they did on their '06 rigs.

    http://my.seagrave.com/ContentManage...odel%20(1).PDF
    Hey BUFF,it would APPEAR that you are,umn,ah,MISTAKEN and that MY QUINT carries more jungle gym than the City. Care to REVIEW YOUR "facts"?,hehe T.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddertruckgoes View Post
    Hey man...

    You can hate Quints all day long...

    But when our Engine is out of service... That quint sure does a good job picking up the slack. If we had 2 pumpers... we would probably have a true truck.
    Like this?
    Last edited by Rescue101; 02-19-2011 at 04:07 PM.

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    Arrg,Can't post the pics. Go to our Smeal platform post #116&117. That's for Buff. T.C.
    Last edited by Rescue101; 06-30-2010 at 09:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddertruckgoes View Post
    Hey man...

    You can hate Quints all day long...

    But when our Engine is out of service... That quint sure does a good job picking up the slack. If we had 2 pumpers... we would probably have a true truck.
    Sooner or later someone will figure a great way to save some more money is to eliminate your one engine, since you have a pump on the ladder. And then when your quint's pump is out of service, what do you have: Vacation? Hopefully you're people holding the purse stringers are smarter than this, but it happens elsewhere..And the only thing you can count on is people trying to save their Benjamin's!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFDACM02 View Post
    Sooner or later someone will figure a great way to save some more money is to eliminate your one engine, since you have a pump on the ladder. And then when your quint's pump is out of service, what do you have: Vacation? Hopefully you're people holding the purse stringers are smarter than this, but it happens elsewhere..And the only thing you can count on is people trying to save their Benjamin's!
    Buy the right pump and it won't be out of Service 'til Waaay after your retirement. This from a guy that bought an ALF (hehe). Just admit it,it WORKS for some of us. By the way,when are you coming down? Corin's headed this way in a little bit. Ride with him and you won't get LOST. Hehe T.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGITCH View Post
    5 firefighters mounted in brackets and fastened to the apparatus
    Love it!!!
    Last edited by FireRescue61; 06-30-2010 at 01:51 PM.

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    on our quint we carry:

    16' roof
    14' roof
    24' extension
    35' extension
    14' extension
    10' attic ladder

    Grand total of 113' of ground ladders

    But wait we get 4 quints on a full assignment, so on the first alarm we get 339' of ground ladders. (provided each companies quint is inservice)

    upgraded to a working job add two more quints

    So each working fire we get "drum roll please" 565' of ground ladders. (once again provided everyones quint is in service due to an ageing fleet, usually one company will be on an engine)

    Yea we have plenty of ground ladders!

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    Thank you all again for your replies!

    Here's a preview of what we have comming...

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    I didn't know primer came in green????
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    Quote Originally Posted by laddertruckgoes View Post
    Thank you all again for your replies!

    Here's a preview of what we have comming...

    Hey, is that a steel aerial? You don't see many single axle Pierce 75' steel aerials anymore. Also do you know if it comes in any more body configurations (like this but with a steel aerial)?

    http://www.piercemfg.com/DeliveryDet...a-9de02489c05d

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddertruckgoes View Post
    Thank you all again for your replies!

    Here's a preview of what we have comming...

    Hey, is that a steel aerial? You don't see many single axle Pierce 75' steel aerials anymore. Also do you know if it comes in any other body configurations (like this but with a steel aerial)?

    http://www.piercemfg.com/DeliveryDet...a-9de02489c05d

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    There was a multitude of body choices we had to chose from or they gave us the option of planning out our own. This rig originally only had steps up one side which wouldve given the opposite side a much wide compartment. Due to our narrow streets and parking issues we went with access on both sides.

    Pierce also offers access up the rear which leave both sides open for compartments. The flip side of that is that our ladders would've made the side compartments much more shallow. After figuring out what we were carrying, this configuration will (hopefully) work out the best for us.

    This is a Steel 75' Aerial, 500lbs tip load. NFPA "Ladder Company" ladders, 400GWT, 2000GPM Waterous, 15kw Harrison HydraGen, 1000' 5", 3 Crosslays, a Bumper Line, Short raised roof and short extended cab. 425 Cummins and Alison Transmission. Tak-4 front end (with lowered control arms), 33.5 Meritor Rear.

    If you guys want I can post more pictures as we go. Once it's finally delivered I'll do the full "expose'."

    Any questions never hesitate to ask!

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    61 - After looking at your link, yes we had a version of that.

    Remeber the Steel Aerial has a different turntable/hinge point/lift cylinder arrangement then the aluminum. This causes the Steel Aerial turntable to sit lower on the rig, which supposedly helps with the overall COG. Also when looking at ours, we had Pierce make our rig as low as possible which made he turntable sit almost 6" lower then normal. Our rig has an 11'3" travel height. When you look at the ladder sitting over the cab, the 12" raised roof is notched, plus the flat part of the roof is notched an additional 2.5". Pierce really did a lot to make this one of the most compact "Quints" they've built lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    I didn't know primer came in green????
    Proof that grass and rigs may in fact be greener on the other side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laddertruckgoes View Post
    Proof that grass and rigs may in fact be greener on the other side.
    Isn't your rescue engine Lime Green -or - Yellow ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laddertruckgoes View Post
    There was a multitude of body choices we had to chose from or they gave us the option of planning out our own. This rig originally only had steps up one side which wouldve given the opposite side a much wide compartment. Due to our narrow streets and parking issues we went with access on both sides.

    Pierce also offers access up the rear which leave both sides open for compartments. The flip side of that is that our ladders would've made the side compartments much more shallow. After figuring out what we were carrying, this configuration will (hopefully) work out the best for us.

    This is a Steel 75' Aerial, 500lbs tip load. NFPA "Ladder Company" ladders, 400GWT, 2000GPM Waterous, 15kw Harrison HydraGen, 1000' 5", 3 Crosslays, a Bumper Line, Short raised roof and short extended cab. 425 Cummins and Alison Transmission. Tak-4 front end (with lowered control arms), 33.5 Meritor Rear.

    If you guys want I can post more pictures as we go. Once it's finally delivered I'll do the full "expose'."

    Any questions never hesitate to ask!

    Addendum:

    61 - After looking at your link, yes we had a version of that.

    Remeber the Steel Aerial has a different turntable/hinge point/lift cylinder arrangement then the aluminum. This causes the Steel Aerial turntable to sit lower on the rig, which supposedly helps with the overall COG. Also when looking at ours, we had Pierce make our rig as low as possible which made he turntable sit almost 6" lower then normal. Our rig has an 11'3" travel height. When you look at the ladder sitting over the cab, the 12" raised roof is notched, plus the flat part of the roof is notched an additional 2.5". Pierce really did a lot to make this one of the most compact "Quints" they've built lately.
    Looks like the outrigger configuration would also impact body configuration between the steel and aluminum equipped units. Nice looking rig by the way.
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    I also wonder about tank size. It seems a lot of single axle Pierce aluminum ladders have 500 gallon tanks, but you never see more than 400 gallons on a single axle steel ladder. (I assume this is a weight issue)

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