Truck Company Equipment Cache

[Opinionated]

Hello Everyone,

I've mentioned a few times that my department is a month out from taking delivery of a new 75' Quint. The way we operate is that even though the truck is a "Quint", we operate as the primary ladder company for our first due plus we have a good amount of coverage area on a mutual aid basis. The reason we have a quint is so that it can run as a back up to our wagon if it's out of service or we run it a bit as the daytime rig. We do not try to do both jobs with the one truck at any incident... one purpose or the other.

I have been blessed with the task of procuring the loose equipment for this rig. Mind you, being a quint we are a bit tight on space but I have faith that we can make anything work.

To the experianced Truckie's here...

What do you carry on your rig and why? Any special tools or tricks you may share? Other then PPV and a few odds and ends, we haven't updated our loose equipment in 15-20 years so we're looking for new and progressive ideas here. Trying to make this as open of a discussion as possible.

Thanks!

[MemphisE34a]

This is not all inclusive, but our trucks carry:

Ladders
Extrication Equipment
Salvage and Overhaul hand tools - pike poles, axes, shovels, tubs, etc.
Generator
Lights
Salvage covers
Stokes basket
Backboards
First Aid Equipment
PPV
Saws
Gas cans
Forcible entry tools
hot sticks

[ChiefDog]

Spend a little extra money and time on brackets / mounts. You will make the room you have go further. I was at the New England Chief's Saturday and saw some neat things PAC had for mounts on display.

[FWDbuff]

Sean, you guys are pretty progressive, I assume you have riding assignments. Here's what we had. The number in parenthesis is the minimum number carried.

(3) six foot hooks (NY Hook or Boston Rake)
(2) sets of irons
(2) extra flatheads
(2) extra halligans
(2) eight foot hooks
(1) ten foot hook
(1) hydra-ram
(2) 10lb sledge hammers
(1) large bolt cutters
(1) small bolt cutters

(2) chainsaws: one fire department heavy duty roof saw (Cutters Edge or equal with an appropriate carbide-tipped bullet chain) one multi-purpose heavy duty chainsaw with a utility chain.
(2) rotary saws: One with a WARTHOG blade, one with a steel blade.
(1) complete set of saw tools & accessories & fluids

(2) salvage tubs
(2) 10x10 salvage covers
(2) 20x20 salvage covers
(2) 3x10 floor runners
(2) flat shovels
(1) spade shovel

(1) gas powered Hurst power unit
(1) electric (mounted on board, up top) hurst power unit, connected to the
(2) 100' reels, one with a combi-tool preconnected, one with the 32"s connected.
(1 each) small, med & large ram
(1) home-made sill plate
(2) extra 25' hoses
(1) set of accessory tips for the spreaders
(1) set of chains

Thats all I can think of right now, it's so hot out that my brain partially melted.....

[FWDbuff]

PS: I know you only have a quint, and we only had a quint (g-damn waste of compartment and ground ladder space....) but you SHOULD have the following (minimum number in parenthesis)

(2) 35's
(2) 28's
(2) 20's
(2) 14's
(1) 40' or 50'
(1) Little Giant or Attic Ladder

[Rescue101]

What in fook would I want a 50 for? Weight training? You'll be hard pressed to get that(Ladder complement) onto a QUINT. Mines ladder heavy;(2) 35's,a 28,2 16's(roof) 2 12's(Roof) Lil Giant, Fresno and a folder. Got 2 25 Roof at the Station,but no space on rig to put them. T.C.

[Opinionated]

Thanks for the replies so far. It looks we're well on the right track.

I wish we could carry all those ladders. Around this area no one is ladder heavy... except for our current rig, but in order to keep weight and size down the new one is severely lacking by our standards.

Currently we have 2 35's, 2 24's, 2 14 Roof, 1 16' 2 Fly, 3 Attic, and a Little Giant.

We dropping down to 2 16 Roof, 1 24, 1 35, 2 Attic, and the Little Giant. (Really Blows)

We're already training to get in the habit of fetching off the Engine's which will cover what we need. Plus our 2nd due truck is a Tower Ladder from Burlington City which carries about the same as our new rig. We have very few buildings over 3 Stories so we should be fine once we get over the learning curve.

Everything else you all have mentioned is about on par with what we're planning.

Buff... I wish I had room to squeeze extrication equipment in. Or the money to buy it.

[Rescue101]

Thanks for the replies so far. It looks we're well on the right track.

I wish we could carry all those ladders. Around this area no one is ladder heavy... except for our current rig, but in order to keep weight and size down the new one is severely lacking by our standards.

Currently we have 2 35's, 2 24's, 2 14 Roof, 1 16' 2 Fly, 3 Attic, and a Little Giant.

We dropping down to 2 16 Roof, 1 24, 1 35, 2 Attic, and the Little Giant. (Really Blows)

We're already training to get in the habit of fetching off the Engine's which will cover what we need. Plus our 2nd due truck is a Tower Ladder from Burlington City which carries about the same as our new rig. We have very few buildings over 3 Stories so we should be fine once we get over the learning curve.

Everything else you all have mentioned is about on par with what we're planning.

Buff... I wish I had room to squeeze extrication equipment in. Or the money to buy it.

How about a 28 for the 24? Gives you a LITTLE more and doesn't take up much space. T.C.

[Rescue101]

PS: I know you only have a quint, and we only had a quint (g-damn waste of compartment and ground ladder space....) but you SHOULD have the following (minimum number in parenthesis)

(2) 35's
(2) 28's
(2) 20's
(2) 14's
(1) 40' or 50'
(1) Little Giant or Attic Ladder

You MIGHT wanna look at a NFPA COMPLIANT LADDER list(for a LADDER TRUCK), YOUR list AIN'T it! 115' REQUIRED,anything ELSE..........OPTIONAL. 85' for a QUINT. I'm PRETTY sure ours EXCEEDS the STANDARD. T.C.

[Rescue101]

Sean, you guys are pretty progressive, I assume you have riding assignments. Here's what we had. The number in parenthesis is the minimum number carried.

(3) six foot hooks (NY Hook or Boston Rake)
(2) sets of irons
(2) extra flatheads
(2) extra halligans
(2) eight foot hooks
(1) ten foot hook
(1) hydra-ram
(2) 10lb sledge hammers
(1) large bolt cutters
(1) small bolt cutters

(2) chainsaws: one fire department heavy duty roof saw (Cutters Edge or equal with an appropriate carbide-tipped bullet chain) one multi-purpose heavy duty chainsaw with a utility chain.
(2) rotary saws: One with a WARTHOG blade, one with a steel blade.
(1) complete set of saw tools & accessories & fluids

(2) salvage tubs
(2) 10x10 salvage covers
(2) 20x20 salvage covers
(2) 3x10 floor runners
(2) flat shovels
(1) spade shovel

(1) gas powered Hurst power unit
(1) electric (mounted on board, up top) hurst power unit, connected to the
(2) 100' reels, one with a combi-tool preconnected, one with the 32"s connected.
(1 each) small, med & large ram
(1) home-made sill plate
(2) extra 25' hoses
(1) set of accessory tips for the spreaders
(1) set of chains

Thats all I can think of right now, it's so hot out that my brain partially melted.....

Make that 4 saws and you're CLOSE. T.C.

[ChiefSquirrel]

My former volunteer company has a 75' single axle quint with one 35', two 24', two 16' roof, one 10' attic in it. All but one of the 16' roof ladders are in the torque box storage area where ladders are typically stored.

[Rescue101]

My former volunteer company has a 75' single axle quint with one 35', two 24', two 16' roof, one 10' attic in it. All but one of the 16' roof ladders are in the torque box storage area where ladders are typically stored.

ALL ours,minus ONE 12' and the Lil Giant are. T.C.

[FWDbuff]

Make that 4 saws and you're CLOSE. T.C.

Re-read. I said 4 saws. 2 chain/2rotary.

[Rescue101]

Re-read. I said 4 saws. 2 chain/2rotary.

You're FORGIVEN,hehe T.C.

[WoodbridgeFFII]

Hey Sean, Is your new quint a 75' steel ladder -or- Aluminum, on a single rear 33,000lb axle ? You don't want your truck to stop like our two Aerialscopes!

[jimbren]

Start with NFPA 1901 Chapter 8 Aerial Fire Apparatus:

Ground Ladders.
A minimum of 115 ft of ground ladders shall be supplied and installed by the contractor.
As a minimum, the following types of ladders shall be provided:
1. One attic ladder
2. Two straight ladders with folding roof hooks
3. Two extension ladders

Aerial fire apparatus shall be equipped with at least the following equipment:
1. Two 6 lb flathead axes mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
2. Three 6 lb pickhead axes mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
3. Four pike poles mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
4. Two 3 ft to 4 ft plaster hooks with D handles mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
5. Two crowbars mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
6. Two claw tools mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
7. Two 12 lb sledgehammers mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
8. Four portable hand lights mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
9. One approved dry chemical portable fire extinguisher with a minimum 80-B:C rating mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
10. One 2.5 gal or larger water extinguisher mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
11. One SCBA complying with NFPA 1981 for each assigned seating position, but not fewer than four, mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus or stored in containers supplied by the SCBA manufacturer
12. One spare SCBA cylinder for each SCBA carried, each mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus or stored in a specially designed storage space(s)
13. One first aid kit
14. Six salvage covers, each a minimum size of 12 ft x 18 ft
15. Four combination spanner wrenches mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
16. Two scoop shovels mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
17. One pair of bolt cutters, 24 in. minimum, mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
18. Four ladder belts meeting the requirements of NFPA 1983, Standard on Fire Service Life Safety Rope and System Components
19. One 150 ft light-use life safety rope meeting the requirements of NFPA 1983, Standard on Fire Service Life Safety Rope and System Components
20. One 150 ft general-use life safety rope meeting the requirements of NFPA 1983, Standard on Fire Service Life Safety Rope and System Components
21. Two 150 ft utility ropes having a breaking strength of at least 5000 lb
22. One box of tools to include the following:

1. One hacksaw with three blades
2. One keyhole saw
3. One 12 in. pipe wrench
4. One 24 in. pipe wrench
5. One ballpeen hammer
6. One pair of tin snips
7. One pair of pliers
8. One pair of lineman's pliers
9. Assorted types and sizes of screwdrivers
10. Assorted adjustable wrenches
11. Assorted combination wrenches

23. Two wheel chocks, mounted in readily accessible locations, each designed to hold the apparatus, when loaded to its maximum in-service weight, on a 10 percent grade with the transmission in neutral and the parking brake released.
24. One traffic vest for each seating position, each vest to comply with ANSI/ISEA 207, Standard for High-Visibility Public Safety Vests, and have a five-point breakaway feature that includes two at the shoulders, two at the sides, and one at the front.
25. Five fluorescent orange traffic cones not less than 28 in. in height, each equipped with a 6 in. retroreflective white band no more than 4 in. from the top of the cone, and an additional 4 in. retroreflective white band 2 in. below the 6 in. band.
26. Five illuminated warning devices such as highway flares, unless the five fluorescent orange traffic cones have illuminating capabilities
27. One automatic external defibrillator (AED)



If the aerial fire apparatus is equipped with a fire pump, the requirements of 8.8.3.1 through 8.8.3.3 shall apply.

The following equipment shall be provided:

1. One double female 2.5 in.adapter with National Hose threads, mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
2. One double male 2.5 in. adapter with National Hose threads, mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
3. One rubber mallet, for use on suction hose connections, mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
4. Two hydrant wrenches mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus.

Add extras after.

[Rescue101]

Start with NFPA 1901 Chapter 8 Aerial Fire Apparatus:

Ground Ladders.
A minimum of 115 ft of ground ladders shall be supplied and installed by the contractor.
As a minimum, the following types of ladders shall be provided:
1. One attic ladder
2. Two straight ladders with folding roof hooks
3. Two extension ladders

Aerial fire apparatus shall be equipped with at least the following equipment:
1. Two 6 lb flathead axes mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
2. Three 6 lb pickhead axes mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
3. Four pike poles mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
4. Two 3 ft to 4 ft plaster hooks with D handles mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
5. Two crowbars mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
6. Two claw tools mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
7. Two 12 lb sledgehammers mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
8. Four portable hand lights mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
9. One approved dry chemical portable fire extinguisher with a minimum 80-B:C rating mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
10. One 2.5 gal or larger water extinguisher mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
11. One SCBA complying with NFPA 1981 for each assigned seating position, but not fewer than four, mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus or stored in containers supplied by the SCBA manufacturer
12. One spare SCBA cylinder for each SCBA carried, each mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus or stored in a specially designed storage space(s)
13. One first aid kit
14. Six salvage covers, each a minimum size of 12 ft x 18 ft
15. Four combination spanner wrenches mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
16. Two scoop shovels mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus
17. One pair of bolt cutters, 24 in. minimum, mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
18. Four ladder belts meeting the requirements of NFPA 1983, Standard on Fire Service Life Safety Rope and System Components
19. One 150 ft light-use life safety rope meeting the requirements of NFPA 1983, Standard on Fire Service Life Safety Rope and System Components
20. One 150 ft general-use life safety rope meeting the requirements of NFPA 1983, Standard on Fire Service Life Safety Rope and System Components
21. Two 150 ft utility ropes having a breaking strength of at least 5000 lb
22. One box of tools to include the following:

1. One hacksaw with three blades
2. One keyhole saw
3. One 12 in. pipe wrench
4. One 24 in. pipe wrench
5. One ballpeen hammer
6. One pair of tin snips
7. One pair of pliers
8. One pair of lineman's pliers
9. Assorted types and sizes of screwdrivers
10. Assorted adjustable wrenches
11. Assorted combination wrenches

23. Two wheel chocks, mounted in readily accessible locations, each designed to hold the apparatus, when loaded to its maximum in-service weight, on a 10 percent grade with the transmission in neutral and the parking brake released.
24. One traffic vest for each seating position, each vest to comply with ANSI/ISEA 207, Standard for High-Visibility Public Safety Vests, and have a five-point breakaway feature that includes two at the shoulders, two at the sides, and one at the front.
25. Five fluorescent orange traffic cones not less than 28 in. in height, each equipped with a 6 in. retroreflective white band no more than 4 in. from the top of the cone, and an additional 4 in. retroreflective white band 2 in. below the 6 in. band.
26. Five illuminated warning devices such as highway flares, unless the five fluorescent orange traffic cones have illuminating capabilities
27. One automatic external defibrillator (AED)



If the aerial fire apparatus is equipped with a fire pump, the requirements of 8.8.3.1 through 8.8.3.3 shall apply.

The following equipment shall be provided:

1. One double female 2.5 in.adapter with National Hose threads, mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
2. One double male 2.5 in. adapter with National Hose threads, mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
3. One rubber mallet, for use on suction hose connections, mounted in a bracket fastened to the apparatus
4. Two hydrant wrenches mounted in brackets fastened to the apparatus.

Add extras after.

AND IF A QUINT,85' of Ground ladders instead of 115',T.C.

[FWDbuff]

Start with NFPA 1901 Chapter 8 Aerial Fire Apparatus:

Ground Ladders.
A minimum of 115 ft of ground ladders shall be supplied and installed by the contractor.
As a minimum, the following types of ladders shall be provided:
1. One attic ladder
2. Two straight ladders with folding roof hooks
3. Two extension ladders .

Like most NFPA standards, the ground ladder standard for truck companies is a fooking joke.

[Rescue101]

Like most NFPA standards, the ground ladder standard for truck companies is a fooking joke.

You won't find ANY Quints(and FEW Ladders) with YOUR ladder load. Unless you stack 'em on top. T.c.

[FWDbuff]

You won't find ANY Quints(and FEW Ladders) with YOUR ladder load. Unless you stack 'em on top. T.c.

Boston's got em. Philly's got em. FDNY's got em. Newark's got em....Baltimore..And what do these all have in common....


Drumroll, please.....



No fooking homosexual quints!