During a extrication class that I took, we were told to use only hand tools, including electric ones such as a sawzall to remove the roof. We had 4 people in our group. We used an axe on the windshield and hacksaw on the posts. The other groups went with the portable generator/sawzall method. While they were screwing around getting the generator over there, set up and running, extension cord, blade in the sawzall, we were cutting. We had 2 people per side, trading off. It was surprising how fast it went and that we were done before they were. Granted, the newer car materials will make this harder if not impossible, but it was a good lesson.
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Yep!.............
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Ummmm...........
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08-23-2010, 06:32 PM #26
I'm crying right with you Harve, a sad day indeed.
Originally Posted by hwoods
All our heavy/light rescues still have porta-powers as a back up, or where and when needed. All tool rigs have 2 sets of hack saws.
FM1I'm the one Fire and Rescue calls, when they need to be Rescued.
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08-23-2010, 07:48 PM #27
PK - all of the above, though making such a cut has been a while.
The NYS extrication course doesn't get into hydraulics until the last class (or didn't, when I took it). We also learned how to use half a lawnmower blade (notched at the business end) and a big hammer to cut the sheet metal. Noisy, but effective.
We recently ran an in-house drill using both the sawzall and the jaws for such cuts. The participants learned a lot.Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.
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We had a call for a 2 y/o male with his foot caught in the bars of a recliner. We were told by command to bring the porta-power up to the apartment but another FD and EMS were able to free the pt. without the porta-power, but it goes to show there are an almost infinite amount of situations where you could use one.
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Sudden Thought..............
Has anyone ever used a Porto Power to remove a "Minor Wrinkle" in Aluminum Diamondplate that was attached to a piece of Apparatus?? Late at night, when only a few folks could have known..........
Not that I ever have, just an example........
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08-24-2010, 09:10 AM #31
Describe MINOR please...
Originally Posted by hwoods
Minor as in just a little bowed;
or slightly more than a bow, but less than a crease, somewhere around
torqued?HAVE PLAN.............WILL TRAVEL
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08-24-2010, 09:11 AM #32
As a matter of fact,YES I have. And not a SMALL dent either. T.C.
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No, but I did use one to remove a similar "minor wrinkle" on my own POV. Didn't get it out completely but made it a little better

By the way, can you still buy the complete "Blackhawk" extrication set with all the Porta Power tools in it? That's the set we have, got to be from at least 30 years ago. I'd like to buy the whole set since ours is kinda trashed, but I don't think they still sell them as a set.Last edited by dmleblanc; 08-27-2010 at 02:40 PM.
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Hey Dwayne!!......
Do a Search on "Blackhawk Porto Power" ........... Results even suprised me...
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I did. They still make the Porto Power hand pump and the ram and the small spreader. Our Blackhawk set has a larger spreader too, and this is the item I can't seem to locate. The small red spreader is about 8" long, I guess. We had a larger, yellow one that was more like the size of a standard hydraulic rescue spreader. It was part of the same kit.
Our kit also has a cable come-along and a few other odds and ends not shown with the kit on the website. Although it is possible that these items were added to the kit later, I suppose. I just don't see anything that resembles the original Blackhawk kit that we have.Chief Dwayne LeBlanc
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I think this might be what you are looking for:
http://www.specialserviceandsupply.c..._Extractor.htm
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