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    Does anyone still use a porta-power? If so please explain.

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    Question Huh??.............

    We still carry and use them. I don't want to be rude, but what's to explain??....... A Porto-Power tool is just another Tool in the Big Box....... Or are you asking for information on Porto-power Equipment?....
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    To be more clear...I was just wondering how they are used today with the advent of modern hydraulic extraction equipment. In the 1970's (Emergency) they were used all the time on MVA's before they got the Hurst tool.

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    For one reason is back up to the power tools. Another is portability. They are hand held and can fit most anywhere. Fast set up, easy to operate is another.
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    Thumbs up Ok............

    Dickey made a couple of Points, and there's more. I can almost purchase a complete Porto-Power outfit with what we spend on Hydraulic Fluid for our Powered Hydraulic Tools each year. Porto-Powers never run out of Fuel. They fit in Tiny Corners where Big Powered Tools can't. They also work in a Flammable atmosphere without creating Sparks, as well as working Under Water......... But the Biggie is Weight. I can Rappel or Climb with a Porto-Power to reach the Job......... Be Back with more Later....
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    Ever have a building collapse? Hoses are never long enough, and they always get into the way. Vehicles down embankments. etc.

    Even better - picture a rural department, 20 miles away from the nearest jaws. They may only run one extrication a year. Can't afford a set fancy jaws. Low budget. No, I mean low budget. Not only 80K a year, how about 6k a year. I can do a LOT with a portapower, often haveing the job done before the fancy stuff gets on scene.

    My only complaint about portapowers? very few ever train with them anymore. They always expect the jaws to be available, working, and technically possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    Ever have a building collapse? Hoses are never long enough, and they always get into the way. Vehicles down embankments. etc.

    Even better - picture a rural department, 20 miles away from the nearest jaws. They may only run one extrication a year. Can't afford a set fancy jaws. Low budget. No, I mean low budget. Not only 80K a year, how about 6k a year. I can do a LOT with a portapower, often haveing the job done before the fancy stuff gets on scene.

    My only complaint about portapowers? very few ever train with them anymore. They always expect the jaws to be available, working, and technically possible.

    One of my favorite Tricks in Training is to walk over to the Heavy Rescue and shut it down in the middle of an extrication Drill and Yell "Squad's Motor just Quit, what do you do now??" and watch the fun.........
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    Still have them and still use them.



    One of my favorite Tricks in Training is to walk over to the Heavy Rescue and shut it down in the middle of an extrication Drill and Yell "Squad's Motor just Quit, what do you do now??" and watch the fun.........


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    We have on our rig too. still use 'em. T.C,

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    One of my favorite Tricks in Training is to walk over to the Heavy Rescue and shut it down in the middle of an extrication Drill and Yell "Squad's Motor just Quit, what do you do now??" and watch the fun.........
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    We don't have a porta-power specifically, what we have is a Hydra-ram. One thing we use it for is forcing metal doors (rabbit tool), but that doesn't happen that often. The main thing it gets used for these days, at least on my shift, is opening the hood on car fires.

    We've found that instead of beating up ourselves and the car (and looking silly) trying to pry open the hood with a halligan bar when the release is no longer functional, using the spreader attachment for the Hydra-ram makes short work of the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    One of my favorite Tricks in Training is to walk over to the Heavy Rescue and shut it down in the middle of an extrication Drill and Yell "Squad's Motor just Quit, what do you do now??" and watch the fun.........
    I did the same thing at our last extrication drill. Boy, CHARLIE FOXTROT IN PROGRESS!!! It really made people panic and think about having a back up.

    We carry two sets of tools on our heavy rescue. It took almost 5 minutes of standing there with their bare faces hanging out looking at each other before someone realized, hey, let's fire up that back up system!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireRescue61 View Post
    Does anyone still use a porta-power? If so please explain.
    Once you are old enough to join a department and get trained...try using a porta-power set. You will quickly learn their usefullness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    One of my favorite Tricks in Training is to walk over to the Heavy Rescue and shut it down in the middle of an extrication Drill and Yell "Squad's Motor just Quit, what do you do now??" and watch the fun.........
    Along the lines of a department (some years ago) whose hydraulics malfunctioned, so they called a mutual aid department. When the MA department arrived, they tried the doors. And they opened...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    Once you are old enough to join a department and get trained...try using a porta-power set. You will quickly learn their usefullness.
    I have one at home. It is a good (and inexpensive) tool.

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    I just used one last shift day. We keep one on the engines and had to use it to pop a hood while responding to a car fire. It was a hell of a lot easier than using a halligan or pry bar to pop the hood.

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    I think we will be putting one of these on the engine pretty soon. Pretty cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    Not only 80K a year, how about 6k a year. I can do a LOT with a portapower, often haveing the job done before the fancy stuff gets on scene.
    Same department that would not be able to afford a HydraRam could use a simple port-a-power set with a 30" ram\extension to spread a door jam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tree68 View Post
    Along the lines of a department (some years ago) whose hydraulics malfunctioned, so they called a mutual aid department. When the MA department arrived, they tried the doors. And they opened...
    One of those things that just makes you say... "duh!"



    I am curious:

    How many of you still carry a hack saw?

    How many of you have cut an "A" Post with a hack saw?

    How many of you know what a hack saw is?




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    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinKnight View Post
    One of those things that just makes you say... "duh!"



    I am curious:

    How many of you still carry a hack saw?

    How many of you have cut an "A" Post with a hack saw?

    How many of you know what a hack saw is?




    Ask Harve about hack saw if you don't know what it is.
    During a extrication class that I took, we were told to use only hand tools, including electric ones such as a sawzall to remove the roof. We had 4 people in our group. We used an axe on the windshield and hacksaw on the posts. The other groups went with the portable generator/sawzall method. While they were screwing around getting the generator over there, set up and running, extension cord, blade in the sawzall, we were cutting. We had 2 people per side, trading off. It was surprising how fast it went and that we were done before they were. Granted, the newer car materials will make this harder if not impossible, but it was a good lesson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinKnight View Post
    I am curious:

    How many of you still carry a hack saw?

    How many of you have cut an "A" Post with a hack saw?

    How many of you know what a hack saw is?
    We do, I have (B & C too) & I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lono View Post
    Granted, the newer car materials will make this harder if not impossible, but it was a good lesson.

    You are correct, but in spite of "Cash for Clunkers", Vehicles with the newer alloys are still in the Minority. On of my saddest days in recent years was in when I found myself on a Call where we had to cut on a 59 Chevy.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinKnight View Post
    One of those things that just makes you say... "duh!"



    I am curious:

    How many of you still carry a hack saw?

    How many of you have cut an "A" Post with a hack saw?

    How many of you know what a hack saw is?




    Ask Harve about hack saw if you don't know what it is.


    A "Hack Saw" is a Special Tool for Cutting Taxicabs, Right??...............
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    You are correct, but in spite of "Cash for Clunkers", Vehicles with the newer alloys are still in the Minority. On of my saddest days in recent years was in when I found myself on a Call where we had to cut on a 59 Chevy.......
    Ouch. That is painful!

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