1. #1
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    26

    Default How Big is your First Due Area?

    Hi all, I'm doing a sort of small study. In my area, fire and EMS service is covered by each individual city. The cities, however, range from relatively large to really small. As a result, there are a lot of firehouses that seem to be a very short distance from one another. I'm trying to get an idea of how this compares to both A) large or intermediate sized city fire stations, and B) other fire departments that are fairly near another department. So, how big is your station/department's first due area?

  2. #2
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Windsor, MA
    Posts
    237

    Default

    35.1 square miles

  3. #3
    Forum Member
    DeputyChiefGonzo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2000
    Location
    Somewhere between genius and insanity!
    Posts
    13,584

    Default

    As a Deputy... my first due is the entire City... 22 square miles. Our HQ station has the smallest first due area, Stations 2 and 3 have roughly the same sized 1st due districts.
    Last edited by DeputyChiefGonzo; 08-12-2010 at 04:59 PM.
    ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
    Lt. Ray McCormack, FDNY

  4. #4
    MembersZone Subscriber

    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    SW Missouri
    Posts
    1,155

    Default

    Station 1 goes on everything unless a volunteer station is manned and it is a medical call other than we got the whole 110 square miles.

  5. #5
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Albany, NY
    Posts
    121

    Default

    9 square miles here...1st due

  6. #6
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    26

    Default

    Thanks for the answers so far...considering the size of your first due, what characterizes your first due: is it residential, commercial, industrial, a mixture?

  7. #7
    MembersZone Subscriber

    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Golden City 1 hour south of fort smith
    Posts
    544

    Default

    Our 1st due area for just our department is 31 sq miles. We cover that with a 50' telesquirt, 2,000 gallon tanker and a 750 gallon brush truck and six firefighters. But we have automatic aid agreements with three other fire districts which adds another 150 addition sq. miles.

  8. #8

    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    1

    Default

    1st Due 67 sq. miles......auto aid 2x's that amout

  9. #9
    ...
    ... is offline
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Posts
    420

    Default

    I'm not a firefighter yet, but my would-be first due is 6.1 square miles which is mostly residential, some commercial, and a large county farm/park.

  10. #10
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Bossier Parrish, Louisiana
    Posts
    10,599

    Default

    Combo department I work for full-time is 164 square miles plus another 24 at the State National Gurad facility we cover under contract. We cover it with 6 stations (1 staffed) plus a station on the Guard facility.

    The all-volunteer department I vollie at is about 94 square miles. We cover it with 5 stations.

    We honestly do not have first-due areas for each station. Too many variables to say a truck should arrive first in "this" area with primarily or all-volunteer departments.
    Last edited by LaFireEducator; 08-12-2010 at 10:29 PM.

  11. #11
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    664

    Default

    About 6 or 7 blocks in any direction...
    Just a typical moronic, childish, idiotic munchkin.

  12. #12
    Truckie
    SPFDRum's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 1999
    Location
    St Paul, MN
    Posts
    2,516

    Default

    I would guess 9 square miles, 48,000 people?

    On edit: Our term "first due" must be different from the rest. We consider our first due the area in which you are on the listed on the run card for a telephone alarm or still alarm.
    Our city is 56+ square miles, just shy of 300,000 people.
    Last edited by SPFDRum; 08-13-2010 at 10:31 AM.
    My posts reflect my views and opinions, not the organization I work for or my IAFF local. Some of which they may not agree. I.A.C.O.J. member
    "I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
    George Mason
    Co-author of the Second Amendment
    during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788
    Elevator Rescue Information

  13. #13
    Forum Member
    PaladinKnight's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    2,413

    Default

    Planet Earth...

    No,

    ...about 47 sq miles 1st due (depends on which of 6.5 stations), 2nd due 650 sq miles. Second due for 5 other departments. Many times, our crews arrive first on Auto-Aid Calls.

    I expect some changes in our 2nd due policy soon as we continue to evaluate budget constraints.
    HAVE PLAN.............WILL TRAVEL

  14. #14
    Forum Member
    DeputyMarshal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Connecticut, USA
    Posts
    2,638

    Default

    Just shy of 37 square miles. (Resident population ~45,000)
    "Nemo Plus Voluptatis Quam Nos Habant"

    The Code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.

  15. #15
    MembersZone Subscriber
    Chief_Roy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    West Coast
    Posts
    197

    Default

    350 square miles :-)

  16. #16
    MembersZone Subscriber
    tree68's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Jefferson County, NY USA
    Posts
    2,289

    Default

    About 37 square miles, maybe 2000 people (used to be more cows than people...). Automatics for structures add in another 30 square miles or so.
    Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.

    Everyone goes home. Safety begins with you.

  17. #17
    Forum Member
    BSFD140's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    63

    Default

    Our district is 15 sq miles - broken up between 3 stations. we are a suburban fire district.

  18. #18
    MembersZone Subscriber

    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    110

    Default

    350 sq miles Fire and Rescue. 2000 Square mile Auto Aid on Structure fires.
    FF II, EMT, Fire Instructor I, Fire Officer I

  19. #19
    Forum Member
    CGITCH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Sumner IA
    Posts
    496

    Default

    ~156 square miles. 99% rural area with no established water supply. Serve 3500 people out of one station in the "city" (of 2000 people)

  20. #20
    Forum Member
    JayDudley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Idaho
    Posts
    1,272

    Default Response Area

    Our Fire District is 165 square miles with 135 square miles EMS response area and 3 on duty per shift. This is compared with the department I retired from which was 55 square miles and 146 firefighters on duty per shift.
    Respectfully,
    Jay Dudley
    Retired Fire
    Background Investigator
    IACOJ-Member
    Lifetime Member CSFA
    IAFF Alumni Member

  21. #21
    Forum Member
    FIREMECH1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    HUSKER LAND
    Posts
    2,425

    Default

    Stand alone is 120 sq. miles. MA takes it out to about 175.

    FM1
    I'm the one Fire and Rescue calls, when they need to be Rescued.

    Quote Originally Posted by EastKyFF
    "Firemens gets antsies. Theys wants to goes to fires. Sometimeses they haves to waits."

  22. #22
    Forum Member
    DarkStarr's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Posts
    93

    Default

    20.02 miles, residential/small business with some light industrial.

  23. #23
    MembersZone Subscriber
    Dickey's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2000
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    5,111

    Default

    4.1 square miles, 8700 people.
    Jason Knecht
    Assistant Chief
    Altoona Fire Dept.
    Altoona, WI

    IACOJ - Director of Cheese and Whine
    http://www.cheddarvision.tv/
    EAT CHEESE OR DIE!!

  24. #24
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Jacksonville Fl
    Posts
    507

    Default

    50 sq miles, 35000+ popu., mostly suburban residential, some light and medium commercial

  25. #25
    MembersZone Subscriber

    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    1,167

    Default

    Career station - 2 miles radius. ?? district population. City of 300,000+-. Urban, everything from shotgun houses to industrial plants (Exxon Mobile)

    Volunteer dept - 90+ square miles (actually we run 2 department as one, 46 mi. and 47 mi.) 2000+ population, rural

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. World Of Fire Report: 03-17-05
    By PaulBrown in forum World of Fire Daily Report
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-20-2005, 11:29 AM
  2. World Of Fire Report: 03-15-05
    By PaulBrown in forum World of Fire Daily Report
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 03-18-2005, 08:15 AM
  3. World Of Fire Report: 02-23-04
    By PaulBrown in forum World of Fire Daily Report
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 02-24-2004, 07:58 AM
  4. World Of Fire Report: 09-27-03
    By PaulBrown in forum World of Fire Daily Report
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 09-28-2003, 08:59 AM
  5. World Of Fire Report: 08-31-03
    By PaulBrown in forum World of Fire Daily Report
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 09-01-2003, 11:32 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Log in

Click here to log in or register