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    From the front page of Firehouse.com....
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    And your point is.......



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    I don't know. Maybe I'm on my own on this one. I thought it was obvious.

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    He's probably referring to the vests over the SCBA, something that is clearly exempted by the CFR, and honestly, seems like it would get in the way to me (and I'm very much a vest proponent).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CustomShields View Post
    I don't know. Maybe I'm on my own on this one. I thought it was obvious.
    No, I'm with you. Some people just can't see anything but absolutes.

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    I'm guessing their being extra safe since there doesn't appear to be any fire showing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CustomShields View Post
    I don't know. Maybe I'm on my own on this one. I thought it was obvious.
    I wondered too. It's one of those things that make you go, "Hmmmm".

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    Looks like an 18wheeler on it's side

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    Maybe I don't understand the issue, but again I'm not at that scene and do not have the right to armchair quarterback.


    I can't think of a situation where my crew is wearing SCBA and traffic would be driving by in the adjacent lane. So label me puzzled by this one.

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    Please explain the issue. I will reserve comment until then.
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    Maybe they have one of those Chiefs that only deals in absolutes, such as:

    "Vests will be worn at every incident on a street"

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    "SCBA will be worn at every incident that involves Hazmat"

    And if both situations apply, then you have to look like an idiot.
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    I don't know Marcus... they seem too busy to worry about looking like idiots.

    Other than the fact that the vest are twisted and not worn properly, they do get points for commitment.

    I do appreciate your ability to find the humor in it. You never know, it may become the next fashion craze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinKnight View Post
    I don't know Marcus... they seem too busy to worry about looking like idiots.

    Other than the fact that the vest are twisted and not worn properly, they do get points for commitment.

    I do appreciate your ability to find the humor in it. You never know, it may become the next fashion craze.
    Based on the way the vests are worn I could also see the following scenario being possible:

    After being on scene for a short while, doing what they are doing, a chief showed up. At this point maybe they realized "Crap, we are not wearing our vest, get it on, get it on, get it on!!!!!!!" resulting in the demonstrated doning technique.

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    Based on the way the vests are worn I could also see the following scenario being possible:

    After being on scene for a short while, doing what they are doing, a chief showed up. At this point maybe they realized "Crap, we are not wearing our vest, get it on, get it on, get it on!!!!!!!" resulting in the demonstrated doning technique.



    Based on the other pics in the same article that isnt the case....others are wearing them under there SCBA!

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    After reading the article, I have come to this conclusion.

    It is an operational gut check.

    The SCBA seems precautionary after the initial assessment. The fuel leakage was their primary concern since the injury to the driver was minor. If the scene is stabilized, then flash, spark, fire, explosion might be considered but I wouldn't imagine the threat would be grave.

    I still hesitate whether the vest were needed. Since the guys are fully bunked, and they are actively working in the so called hot zone... traffic should not be a concern if it is controlled properly.

    Of course, just one idiot driving by in traffic can cause the situation to go south pretty quick.

    Since I wasn't there, I can't judge.
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    Forget about the vests. If the danger zone requires scba to be worn or at least on your back then all in the zone should have scba. Person on right does not have scba on his back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsADirtyJob View Post
    Based on the other pics in the same article that isnt the case....others are wearing them under there SCBA!
    That's because they are the ones who got there after the chief
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    Question Uhhh???????????............

    So where is the Photo in Question?? I haven't seen it yet............



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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusKspn View Post
    That's because they are the ones who got there after the chief
    Doesn't matter when the Chief arrived...white helmets and ties exempt you from harm. JEEEZ, I thought everyone knew that!!

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    I'll clarify my comment, "And your point is....".

    While the OFD does wear its vests on the streets, they usually do not when they don their SCBA. Usually the scene is secure so they don't need to.

    On that same note, I have 11 VFD's that I am familiar with. 2 of them don their vests over their SCBA's when on the streets. So the pic to me was a non-issue or something I haven't seen before.

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    Hi folks,

    I'd like to chime in on this thread as I took the photos.

    In the photo that was selected for this thread (please don't forget to include the URL to the story so people can read it too!) the crews were checking on a gas line that they had crimped off.

    The members with the vests over the SCBA were on a backup hoseline at the scene. Another crew was manning the primary hoseline because they had large trucks involved in the crash.

    As for wearing vests over the SCBA, it was merely an added measure of safety. The accident occurred at a very busy intersection where a major highway and interstate have entrance and exits ramps. They were called close to dusk and the vests helped improve their visibility quite a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FHEditor View Post
    Hi folks,

    I'd like to chime in on this thread as I took the photos.

    In the photo that was selected for this thread (please don't forget to include the URL to the story so people can read it too!) the crews were checking on a gas line that they had crimped off.

    The members with the vests over the SCBA were on a backup hoseline at the scene. Another crew was manning the primary hoseline because they had large trucks involved in the crash.

    As for wearing vests over the SCBA, it was merely an added measure of safety. The accident occurred at a very busy intersection where a major highway and interstate have entrance and exits ramps. They were called close to dusk and the vests helped improve their visibility quite a bit.

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    I hope those vest where fire rated.

    People on these boards all the time talk about how benefits will be denied if they are not up to NFPA standards. So with that said, where are all the people saying that now?

    Fire departments are taking this vest thing way to far. I understand they have a time and a place. We are exempt for "chance" of Fire, Hazmat, or EMS.

    I think we need to enforce the gear we already have. If everyone wears their coats, whats the difference. Don't they have the same reflective striping? The striping is better on gear than some of the cheap vests I see floating around that Departments bought a Walmart.

    Everyone can start their whining with me about not wearing vest, and "I want to go home at the end of my shift". What are you going to do when your face is burned and you couldn't open you eyes because a vest flared up?

    I guess my point is USE COMMON SENSE with them. Stay safe.
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