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    Might be an NFPA "compliant" form of eye protection, but i took a shot of hydraulic to the eyes with my face shield down (line on a port-a-power blew up--spray came up behind my shield) several years ago. I've worn goggles since and i think even most flip-downs offer a smaller gap than the shield.

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    Actually the the claim that Morning Pride EZ-Flips are NFPA compliant has nothing to do with how well they protect eyes. This has to do with the heat test that they do in a 500 degree oven. NFPA states that any thing above the brim of the helmet (ie. goggles or visor) must not melt and droop below the brim in order to keep the field of vision clear. Morning Pride uses the loop hole that the EZ-Flips are mounted BELOW the brim so the helmet is NFPA compliant. Yes they still melt and will block your view. I wouldn't be surprised if this loop hole is corrected on the next revision.

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    If you guys would go back and read the standard the face shields are ony compliant to a secondary form of eye protection. For Primary eye protection compliance you have to wear goggles that completely encompass the eyes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenacres2 View Post
    Might be an NFPA "compliant" form of eye protection, but i took a shot of hydraulic to the eyes with my face shield down (line on a port-a-power blew up--spray came up behind my shield) several years ago. I've worn goggles since and i think even most flip-downs offer a smaller gap than the shield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danomfd View Post
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    Wow! Dano steps up to the plate revealing a snafu in the Firehouse.com's automatic censuring program.

    Having said that, to the original poster, if your question is about the FDNY specifically and you don't work there, it is of no consequence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danomfd View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by GFD940 View Post
    Actually the the claim that Morning Pride EZ-Flips are NFPA compliant has nothing to do with how well they protect eyes. This has to do with the heat test that they do in a 500 degree oven. NFPA states that any thing above the brim of the helmet (ie. goggles or visor) must not melt and droop below the brim in order to keep the field of vision clear. Morning Pride uses the loop hole that the EZ-Flips are mounted BELOW the brim so the helmet is NFPA compliant. Yes they still melt and will block your view. I wouldn't be surprised if this loop hole is corrected on the next revision.
    that doesn't make sense because all "bourke" style eye shields should b NFPA compliant then, or is MP just the only one to market theirs as such?

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