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    Can you tell me if there are towns and villages in Canada, USA or in Europe, known for having adopted a regulation requiring electrical smoke alarms in each bedroom in addition to one per floor?

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    Not being up on building codes, I can tell you that all new construction in Ohio requires it. My house has more smoke detectors than I care to admit to due to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cj78 View Post
    Can you tell me if there are towns and villages in Canada, USA or in Europe, known for having adopted a regulation requiring electrical smoke alarms in each bedroom in addition to one per floor?
    Most states in the US adopt some form of the ICC building codes so most of them have required smoke alarms in all sleeping areas since 2003ish.
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    The Code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.

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    US, around here since 1991 if not better!!!!!

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    Not just the law... its also a good idea.
    I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    Not just the law... its also a good idea.
    We teach people to sleep with their doors closed to prevent smoke from coming in but that also prevents smoke from going out and reaching a hallway detector.

    Why not have one in each bedroom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonfyre View Post
    We teach people to sleep with their doors closed to prevent smoke from coming in but that also prevents smoke from going out and reaching a hallway detector.

    Why not have one in each bedroom?
    This is also why we still have a baby monitor in our five year old's bedroom.

    If you've done this more then a few years you've seen people lose their lives because of the lack of these very cheap devices.
    I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyMarshal View Post
    Most states in the US adopt some form of the ICC building codes so most of them have required smoke alarms in all sleeping areas since 2003ish.
    I am asked to propose a new regulation that would require the presence of smoke detectors in all beadrooms. Someone can help me to find examples of regulations... Looking for website where I would find examples? Even better, a contact in a municipality that applies these bylaw would be great... Thanks.
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    Just a question. What do you do for a living?? It may help better answer your question

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    Go to the ICC website and you can check there- also NYS requires them - you can access the Code on line (2007 edition at least), the wording is almost identical to the ICC wording.

    Why reinvent the wheel.....and at least in NY they are not 'bylaws' (you meant something else perhaps)....it is Law.

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    First, excuse my English, it is not perfect
    I am Captain responsible for fire prevention for a municipality of 6,000 people. It's true, do not reinvent the wheel and that's why I'm looking on forums outside of Canada, because here it is not yet the norm. When I say that this bylaw is the level of competence that belongs to us (town). For a law, it should be initiated at government level and this may be my next challenge ...

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    What building/fire codes are currently adopted in your province? Even if the requirements you're looking for aren't already there it would still be easier to adopt model language for the same code systems you already have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pasobuff View Post
    Go to the ICC website and you can check there- also NYS requires them - you can access the Code on line (2007 edition at least), the wording is almost identical to the ICC wording.

    Why reinvent the wheel.....and at least in NY they are not 'bylaws' (you meant something else perhaps)....it is Law.
    Could you give me the direct link since ICC gives me a variety of Internet sites unrelated to the topic ... What does the acronym ICC and NYS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyMarshal View Post
    What building/fire codes are currently adopted in your province? Even if the requirements you're looking for aren't already there it would still be easier to adopt model language for the same code systems you already have.
    We do have the Canadian Code but nothing about smoke detection in bedroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cj78 View Post
    We do have the Canadian Code but nothing about smoke detection in bedroom.
    Do you have a link to any references about it as it pertains to building/fire codes?

    Nevermind -- they want a small fortune to buy a copy.
    Last edited by DeputyMarshal; 12-13-2010 at 04:16 PM. Reason: found code online...
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    From the 2010 Edition of the California Building Code:

    Section 907.2.11.1 Group R-1. Single- or multiple-station smoke alarms shall be installed in all of the following locations' in Group R -1:
    1. In sleeping areas.
    2. In every room in the path of the means of egress
    from the sleeping area to the door leading from the
    sleeping unit.
    3. In each story within the sleeping unit, including
    basements. For sleeping units with split levels and
    without an intervening door between the adjacent
    levels, a smoke alarm installed on the upper level
    Shall suffice for the adjacent lower level provided
    that the lower level is less than one full story below
    the upper level.



    Section 907.2.11.2: Groups R-2,R-2.1, R-3,R-3.1 and R-4.
    "Single- or multiple-station smoke alarms shall be
    installed and maintained in Groups R-2, R-2.1, R-3,
    R-3.1 and R-4 regardless of occupant load at all of the
    following locations:
    1. On the ceiling or wall outside of each separate
    sleeping area in the immediate vicinity of
    bedrooms.
    2. In each room used for sleeping purposes.

    Exception: Single- or multiple-station smoke
    alarms in Group I-1 shall not be required where
    smoke detectors are provided in the sleeping
    rooms as part of an automatic smoke detection
    system. (Group I-1 is a Hospital)

    3. In each story within a dwelling unit, including
    basements but not including crawl spaces and
    uninhabitable attics. In dwellings or dwelling units
    with split levels and without an intervening door
    between the adjacent levels, a smoke alarm
    installed on the upper level shall suffice for the
    adjacent lower level provided that the lower level
    is less than one full story below the upper level."


    Section 907.2.11.3 Interconnection.
    "Where more than one smoke alarm is required to be installed within an individual dwelling unit or sleeping unit in Group R-1, R-2, R-3, R-3.1 or R-4, the smoke alarms shall be interconnected in such a manner that the activation of one alarm will activate all of the alarms in the individual unit. The alarm shall be clearly audible in all bedrooms over background noise levels with all intervening doors closed."


    Section 907.2.11.4 Power source.
    "In new construction and in newly classified Group R-3.1 Occupancies, required smoke alarms shall receive their primary power from the building wiring where such wiring is served from a commercial source and shall be equipped with a battery backup. Smoke alarms with integral strobes that are not equipped with battery backup shall be connected to an emergency electrical system. Smoke alarms shall emit a signal when the batteries are low. Wiring shall be permanent and without a disconnecting switch other than as required for overcurrent protection.

    Exception: Smoke alarms are not required to be
    equipped with battery backup where they are connected
    to an emergency electrical system."


    NOTE (Definitions):

    R-1 Occupancy is an apartment type occupancy.
    R-3 Occupancy is a Single-family home.
    R-2.1, R-3.1, and R-4 Occupancies are special residential facilities. (Board and care homes, homes for special needs people and elderly)
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    NFPA 101, the Life Safety Code requires smokes inside every sleeping area and one in the area just outside sleeping areas (hallway). Pretty sure it's been in since the 2003, maybe 2006.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cj78 View Post
    First, excuse my English, it is not perfect
    I am Captain responsible for fire prevention for a municipality of 6,000 people. It's true, do not reinvent the wheel and that's why I'm looking on forums outside of Canada, because here it is not yet the norm. When I say that this bylaw is the level of competence that belongs to us (town). For a law, it should be initiated at government level and this may be my next challenge ...
    What is the most common home plan? ie are most homes single floor in which case 1 smoke alarm is no good.

    Highly recommend smoke alarms are installed in bedrooms and not just 1 per floor but whatever you see fit to introduce please ensure all smoke alarms have a main electrical supply with a battery backup in your legislation.

    Seen as you are the Fire Captain can i suggest you look into fire sprinklers in new build accomodation while your at it.
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    Thank you very much for your help. Here in Canada we use the NFPA as a reference and not as a requirement. On some items, we supplement our building code by specific municipal bylaws. Soon I will have a regulation that will reach the goal and we will, according to my knowledge, the first city in the province to be severe at this point.

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    Cj78.

    I'm not sure what Province you are in. Some Provinces have their own building code. I'm in NL, and we adopt the 2010 National Building Code of Canada. New this year, the requirement you are asking about. see the link.

    http://www.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/eng/news/n...ding-code.html

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