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    First pictures of the new Rescue. Saw it last week. Built like a tank. Very happy so far.

    http://www.ferrarafire.com/CustomerS...roduction.html

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    Herd from some FDNY firefighter friends of mine that a lot of the guys are not happy about the city going with Ferrara. It looks like Houston is moving away from them. Does anyone know why?

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    Houston did just receive 2 Pierce Arrow XT 100' aluminum aerials in the last 2 months assigned to Ladder Co. 28 and Ladder Co. 68, both in SW Houston.

    Both of these rigs replaced Ferrara Igniter/Smeal 107' steel aerials which are being re-assigned to Ladder Co. 04 (NW) and Ladder Co. 26 (SE) respectively.
    Stay low and move it in.

    Be safe.


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    I do like the looks of the new Ferrara S/S split-tilt cab for the FDNY rescue trucks and RM aerials much better than their standard custom cabs (Inferno and Igniter). The new cab looks sort of similar in the front to the cab Ferrara built years back for the FDNY HP pumpers (e.g., E54). Also, I was suprised to see that the rescue trucks (ladder trucks too?) come equipped with a Federal Q2B. The individual companies that receive these new trucks won't have to add them later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladderman View Post
    Herd from some FDNY firefighter friends of mine that a lot of the guys are not happy about the city going with Ferrara. It looks like Houston is moving away from them. Does anyone know why?
    Because they are junk.

    How many FDNY fireman does it take to make a herd?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeadOff View Post
    Also, I was suprised to see that the rescue trucks (ladder trucks too?) come equipped with a Federal Q2B. The individual companies that receive these new trucks won't have to add them later on.
    You can tell that from the picture?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisE34a View Post
    You can tell that from the picture?
    Description says it will have an eQ2B.

    And were the previous FDNY rescues two door trucks?
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    i think all of their rescues have been walk ins with a 2 man cab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider245 View Post
    Description says it will have an eQ2B.

    And were the previous FDNY rescues two door trucks?
    Oh crap, I didn't see the "E" in front of the Q2B in the write-up. That makes more sense for the FDNY than buying the real thing.

    The Pierce that R1 had and the E-One/Saulsbury rescues were two-door cabs. The HME/Saulsbury rescues before that were 4-door cabs. Here's one of the 4-doors:

    http://fdnytrucks.com/files/html/manhattan/r1.htm
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    Are these the trucks that you see in the fire buff videos with the open rear doors and guys riding in the back?
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    I don't mind fire rolling over my head. I just don't like it rolling UNDER my a**.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider245 View Post
    Are these the trucks that you see in the fire buff videos with the open rear doors and guys riding in the back?
    I do believe so.

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    • Vannair 200 CFM PTO air compressor
    • DP Manufacturing 25,000 pound hydraulic driven winch at rear
    • Ramsey 5,000 pound portable winch with left/right side anchor points
    • Refrigerator/freezer inside body
    • Onan 25kW hydraulic generator on 1000# capacity roll out tray
    • Hannay electric rewind cord reels, one 120V and one 240V
    Nice features.
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    Sure gonna be hard to fill dem compartments der wit dem cross braces der.

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    Thanks. I'll be here all week... You've been great.

    Seriously, now here's a question. Aren't all the enclosures that fire personnel ride in supposed to be third party tested to meet crash worthiness requirements? So how are these builders that make walk-in rescues with seating and those that add crew compartments on the back of commercial chassis pumpers and so forth pulling this off?

    NFPA 1901 - 14.3.2 - Cabs on apparatus with a GVWR greather than 26,000 lb shall meet the requirements of one of the following set of standards:

    (1) SAE J2420
    (2) ECE Regulation number 29

    Now, yes - it says CAB but any decent sleaze lawyer will convince a jury that a cab of a fire apparatus is where anyone is provided a seat with a belt... And one builder was at FDIC a couple years back showing an enclosed top mount enclosure with a sign stating it would be NFPA compliant with third party testing meeting the necessary crash standards, but I've heard nothing of that since.

    Interestingly enough, tiller seating positions are apparently for those that can be sacrificed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisE34a View Post
    Because they are junk.

    How many FDNY fireman does it take to make a herd?
    Depends on Locale, T.C.

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    I notice that Ferrara is building the body off the chassis for this rescue unlike most the other trucks they build. I would think building the body off the chassis would bring a better finished product.

    Was this cab built in house at Ferrara? I'm curious to know how satisfied FDNY will be with Ferrara a few years from now..

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    I noticed that Ferrara is building the body off the chassis for this rescue unlike most the other trucks they build. I would think building the body off the chassis would bring a better finished product.

    Was this cab built in house at Ferrara? I'm curious to know how satisfied FDNY will be with Ferrara a few years from now..

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    i remember seeing some of the in progress FDNY rescue units on the Ferrara website and it was a Spartan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeadOff View Post
    Oh crap, I didn't see the "E" in front of the Q2B in the write-up. That makes more sense for the FDNY than buying the real thing.

    The Pierce that R1 had and the E-One/Saulsbury rescues were two-door cabs. The HME/Saulsbury rescues before that were 4-door cabs. Here's one of the 4-doors:

    http://fdnytrucks.com/files/html/manhattan/r1.htm


    I am quite sure that Michael Martinelli will be pleased to see that you copied his work and posted it in here!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    I am quite sure that Michael Martinelli will be pleased to see that you copied his work and posted it in here!!


    I'm sure he'll be happy to see that it was cited correctly, giving the link to his site not plagiarizing the photos. You do realize that posting the link to another site is not only perfectly acceptable, but preferred as it causes more people to view his site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    I am quite sure that Michael Martinelli will be pleased to see that you copied his work and posted it in here!!


    I doubt it will bother him. All they guy did was drive traffic to his web site.

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    I assume he wants people to actually go to his web site or he wouldn't have put it on the web.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InIttowinit View Post
    i remember seeing some of the in progress FDNY rescue units on the Ferrara website and it was a Spartan.
    Those were the new Collapse Rescue units, not the primary Rescue apparatus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    I am quite sure that Michael Martinelli will be pleased to see that you copied his work and posted it in here!!


    I won't claim to know what his thoughts might be on the subject. I met him once when he came to our station. Very nice guy, pleasant, easy to work with. I do know that he puts a huge amount of his own time and money into making his site what it is. Any apparatus buff would enjoy looking through it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefengineer11 View Post
    I won't claim to know what his thoughts might be on the subject. I met him once when he came to our station. Very nice guy, pleasant, easy to work with. I do know that he puts a huge amount of his own time and money into making his site what it is. Any apparatus buff would enjoy looking through it.
    I know I do. Lots of NICE stuff,nicely laid out. T.C.
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    Does anyone have any updated photos? The ones on FFA website are not updated often.

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    What is on the side of the front bumpers on the FDNY rescues? It looks like some sort of hose coming out.

    Also what happened to the E-one Rescue 1 that was replaced by the Pierce? Was it involved in an accident or something?

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