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    Default Info Request-Snozzle/Municipal Pumper

    We are in the early stages of researching a replacement rig that will have an aerial water tower and will serve as an attack engine and will have vehicle extrication capabilities (meduim rescue capability). We hope to incorporate the boom along with compartmentation to carry engine company tools, a useable hosebed and a medium cache of rescue equipment including hydraulic tools, airbags, cribbing, and the likes.

    I have very little knowledge of Snozzle apparatus, their capabilities, or the bodies available with them. I know E-One, KME and Pierce will mount them, but Im really interested in the body style and the overall flexibility of the boom and total vehicle using such a device.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Toyne builds on Snozzle


    Here is the Snozzle video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFDC7DB31zE
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    Looks like Farrara has done a few. http://www.ferrarafire.com/NewDelive...2_Snozzle.html

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    You might also look at the Rosenbauer Roadrunner as well as the ALF Telesqurt.

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    Check out General Fire Apparatus in Minnesota. Oakdale Fire Department, a suburb of St. Paul, runs 2 General(Rosenbauer)/telesquirts in a similar fashion.
    With very good luck. It also helps that the Fire Chief use to design apparatus.....
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    A few years ago Ferrara had developed in a join venture with the strong arm... a Province in China had a bunch delivered, did/has anyone in North America ever take possession of one?

    http://www.gradallserv.com/

    Guess Gradall calls it SERV...

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    Shoot me a PM. I just sat through a bit of a presentation from Snozzle and could probably shoot you the info they provided.

    Definitely has some nice features, but if you want to climb it you're out of luck... Like everything on the market, there's positives and negatives.

    Full disclosure, I sell Toyne. I can sell Snozzle too. But I can't sell in N.J.
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    Is the purpose for this truck at your department just to have an articulating, aerial waterway? Would you be fine with just an aerial waterway of some sort? I am not sure if there is cost difference between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianFyrTrks View Post
    A few years ago Ferrara had developed in a join venture with the strong arm... a Province in China had a bunch delivered, did/has anyone in North America ever take possession of one?

    http://www.gradallserv.com/

    Guess Gradall calls it SERV...
    Looks interesting, but based on the video, seems to be a lot less versatile then a Telesquirt/Snozzle type unit. It just looks like it is overbuilt for the purpose. And i am still trying to see what the body of the truck would look like with one.

    Watching it just ram right through a roof to put out that room fire was impressive though.

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    Also take a look at the Crimson Boomer.

    6,000 Watt Light Tower
    28' elavated master stream
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    High Pressure Connections For Rescue Tools at the tip
    1,000 Pound Lifting Capabilities
    1,000 Gallon Per Minute Monitor
    2 additional hand line discharges at the tip

    http://www.crimson-fire.com/boomer.aspx

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    What is the additional cost of a snozzle? Range?

    Call Columbia MO FD. They have bought their second and have one in reserve now.

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    MG,

    Based on the attention to detail and usability of your last engine, this could be quite a rig. I can't say that I've ever seen a Snozzle pumper that still had a low hosebed and short enough wheelbase, but perhaps nobody's really tried. Keep us updated on this project.

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    New Orleans runs several snozzle's with a good-sized hosebed and urban-sized water tanks of 500g. While I can't give you specifics I would estimate that the rigs carry at least 700-800' of 5" (they could probably have carried more but NO seems to feel that load is sufficient) as well as at least 600-700' of 3".

    They seem to be quite versatile as I have watched them several times in operation while down in NO. They do very little to raise the truck's overall profile.

    They are an excellent way to get water into alleys or into 2nd/3rd floor windows without the overall size of an aerial.
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    I would be excited to have one just for the radio traffic.

    "Snozzle en route"

    "Commence snozzle ops"

    "We are snozzling the 3rd floor"

    "We snozzled that dumpster"

    "Thats a big snozzle"

    Oh the possibilities....

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    Quote Originally Posted by GFPD2005 View Post
    I would be excited to have one just for the radio traffic.

    "Snozzle en route"

    "Commence snozzle ops"

    "We are snozzling the 3rd floor"

    "We snozzled that dumpster"

    "Thats a big snozzle"

    Oh the possibilities....
    Maybe I WON'T be coming to visit soon...
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    Swedesburg FC, Montgomery County,Pa runs one on a Sutphen chassis. Here is a picture of it. You can view more by going to Arnold Fire Equipment's Facebook page and click on the photo tab.

    If you were at the Wildwood show this truck was in the exhibit area.
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    Thanks for the replies so far. After some thinking, its going to have rescue style compartments on at least one side, so a low hosebed will be difficult. Low crosslays will be key here.

    Anyone ever put a light tower on a snozzle equipped rig? Im doubting it since there exists the possibilty of the tower becoming victim to the snozzle boom knocking it over.

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    You can use the Snozzle as a light tower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFD_E73_RET View Post
    You can use the Snozzle as a light tower.
    So, you can put A/C floodlights on it? I have only seen DC LED style lights on them.

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    First West Chester Fire Company runs one.

    http://www.firstwestchester.org/
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    Quote Originally Posted by MG3610 View Post
    So, you can put A/C floodlights on it? I have only seen DC LED style lights on them.
    Not sure but the new 12v LED lighting puts out a lot of light. I supose it wouldn't be as much as a traditional light tower though. If it was enough light you could eliminate the cost of a hydraulic generator and a light tower.

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    Prospect Park in Delaware County, PA (just south of Philly International) runs a Snozzle on a KME chassis.

    http://www.station08.com/apparatus.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by En6ine View Post
    Prospect Park in Delaware County, PA (just south of Philly International) runs a Snozzle on a KME chassis.

    http://www.station08.com/apparatus.php
    Their website lists it as Snozzle 8, so there you go GFPD2005.
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    Here is your light tower and more. I have more photos I can email. PM me an email address.
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