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    Dose anyone know of any apparatus spec wrighting classes or seminars? the midwest area would be best.

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    I can't point you to a class but I can supply a pointer:

    Spell-check is your friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyMarshal View Post
    I can't point you to a class but I can supply a pointer:

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    Quote Originally Posted by engine341 View Post
    Dose anyone know of any apparatus spec wrighting classes or seminars? the midwest area would be best.

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    If I have said this once, I have said it a thousand times.....Anyone even remotely involved with purchasing a piece of apparatus, from a first-time committee member to a senior line officer or even a motor maintenance shop supervisor, needs to have a copy of the book THE FIRE APPARATUS PURCHASING HANDBOOK, By William C. Peters. It is published by Fire Engineering. It is an INVALUABLE source of information, from making decisions of what kind of apparatus to buy, to buy new or to refurb, writing specifications,, contacting manufacturers and dealing with sales personnel....etc etc etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by engine341 View Post
    Dose anyone know of any apparatus spec wrighting classes or seminars? the midwest area would be best.

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    It is a Specification WRITING class, not wrighting class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    It is a Specification WRITING class, not wrighting class.

    Maybe not. Certain types of craftsmen who create things are known by the "wright" suffix....like millwrights, wheelwrights, and woodwrights. So maybe someone who creates a set of specifications could be considered a "specwright"?

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    Ivy Tech College located in Indiana has a spec class. They may offer that class online. When I took the class we used the book that was mentioned previously. Go to www.ivytech.edu. I have also seen classes offered at FDIC. It is awesome that you are seeking an education on the topic before needed. The school of hard knocks is an expensive way to learn apparatus specs.

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    The class and "The Fire Apparatus Purchasing Handbook" would both be very helpful. Another option would be to make it a point to go to a nearby department (or not so nearby) that has recently spec'd a truck, or does so on a regular basis. Talk to the guy the runs the truck committee. They can offer a lot of valuable insight regarding what they did wrong, what they wished they hadn't done, and always the things they're very happy with. Most enjoy showing off their new rig.

    Also, one thing that many people don't do, is to use the vendors. The pump/chassis/generator/lighting/foam/tool/etc. guys are there to answer questions and help you get what you need. If you get conflicting info (most aren't that way), ask for references. They all have them. There are a lot of good products on the market, and there are a lot of features/options available that could very well make your life a lot easier... but many never ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim1118 View Post
    Also, one thing that many people don't do, is to use the vendors. The pump/chassis/generator/lighting/foam/tool/etc. guys are there to answer questions and help you get what you need. If you get conflicting info (most aren't that way), ask for references. They all have them. There are a lot of good products on the market, and there are a lot of features/options available that could very well make your life a lot easier... but many never ask.
    You need to be careful doing this, as believe it or not, (we wont mention any names) there ARE vendors out there that would talk you into writing your spec around their product in order to eliminate competing bidders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    You need to be careful doing this, as believe it or not, (we wont mention any names) there ARE vendors out there that would talk you into writing your spec around their product in order to eliminate competing bidders.
    NO!!!!! Say it isn't so!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    You need to be careful doing this, as believe it or not, (we wont mention any names) there ARE vendors out there that would talk you into writing your spec around their product in order to eliminate competing bidders.
    Very true... however, don't let that stop you from talking to them. The fire service misses out on a lot of things that would make life easier/safer/more effective because they don't do their homework, and don't take time to listen. I see it every day.

    Don't let vendors push you into their products, but do listen. I can't count the number of times I've heard "I wish I would've known about that when we spec'd our truck..."
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