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    Nah, actually the history behind the old AT&T towers is amazing. We have one that has a tower, plus a 35k square foot nuclear bunker. We own a few between Maine and Colorado.

    To do base jumping I would have to climb them. Not bloody likely.

    And yes, over compensating! You peeked!


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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    Nah, actually the history behind the old AT&T towers is amazing. We have one that has a tower, plus a 35k square foot nuclear bunker. We own a few between Maine and Colorado.

    To do base jumping I would have to climb them. Not bloody likely.

    And yes, over compensating! You peeked!
    Do you ever visit Mooney Mountain? I've heard all sorts of rumors about that one.
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    How about the one on "the bluffs" near GMPG in Michigan? It used to have a partner, but that one's gone.

    In the early days of cell phones, AT&T wanted to put cell equipment on that particular tower, but it sits in the middle of another telecon's territory and they apparently couldn't get any landline service to it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    Do you ever visit Mooney Mountain? I've heard all sorts of rumors about that one.

    The end of Patricia Drive Right? In the middle of Veterans park? Used to be THE place, AT&T called it Netcong. They could control the entire system there. They sold it to a company called "vital records" which does private records retention and storage.

    It is a LARGE underground facility.

    I made an offer when it sold, I am sure it gave someone a laugh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tree68 View Post
    How about the one on "the bluffs" near GMPG in Michigan? It used to have a partner, but that one's gone.

    In the early days of cell phones, AT&T wanted to put cell equipment on that particular tower, but it sits in the middle of another telecon's territory and they apparently couldn't get any landline service to it...
    Not a clue on that one. GMPG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    Not a clue on that one. GMPG?

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    Got it now, thanks. Kensington Road in Milford area. Former AT&T junction site. Lots of info here,

    http://long-lines.net/places-routes/Milford/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by tree68 View Post
    How about the one on "the bluffs" near GMPG in Michigan? It used to have a partner, but that one's gone.

    In the early days of cell phones, AT&T wanted to put cell equipment on that particular tower, but it sits in the middle of another telecon's territory and they apparently couldn't get any landline service to it...
    Even when it was AT&T long lines it had that issue, they had to microwave in phone lines from AT&T area. Back then it was GTE (The Great Telephone Experiment) area.

    Mounds OK was like that, all local phones were extensions off the PBX in downtown Tulsa. The only Contel phone assigned to Mounds was a phone in a metal box at the bottom of the hill on the way up. It was there for people to be able to call in if the road was too icy to get to work.

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    I remember two towers there when I was a kid - but I have no idea what the other one was.

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    There was a tower, that wasn't listed on that site (unless I missed it).

    Succasunna, NJ.

    Rumored to have an underground facility under it... I believe the facility is now owned by some document storage company that does some archiving for the gov'ment.

    Any knowledge of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    There was a tower, that wasn't listed on that site (unless I missed it).

    Succasunna, NJ.

    Rumored to have an underground facility under it... I believe the facility is now owned by some document storage company that does some archiving for the gov'ment.

    Any knowledge of it?
    Would that not be the Netcong tower, middle of veterans park, end of Patricia Drive that I mentioned above?

    According to Google maps it is less than two miles west from the center of Succasunna, NJ. It was the heart of the Long Lines system for AT&T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tree68 View Post
    I remember two towers there when I was a kid - but I have no idea what the other one was.

    Dad worked at the Proving Grounds.
    Broadcast and rental. There are two now, both just a bit to the east of the AT&T one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    Would that not be the Netcong tower, middle of veterans park, end of Patricia Drive that I mentioned above?

    According to Google maps it is less than two miles west from the center of Succasunna, NJ. It was the heart of the Long Lines system for AT&T.
    Dang, missed your other post! That's the one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    Broadcast and rental. There are two now, both just a bit to the east of the AT&T one.
    The second one of which I speak is gone - it was as substantial as the AT&T tower. I don't get back that way often, so have no idea when it came down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KelleeR View Post
    strongman/powerlifter/highland games participant.
    How'd your CPAT go on the 7th?

    Good luck in AZ.

    I dated an all-American discuss thrower at the small College where I was 3rd string linebacker and captain of the Red-dog team some, well, few years ago. Though I did set the school's deadlift record in the 175lb weight class during preseason training my freshman year (which was a little unusual) - alas, Black-smith's upper body with short legs doth not Mr. Speedy render. Sometimes certain limitations just are. Should'a been a hockey player maybe. Still a lot of fun - given that nobody's life was depending on it...

    And my friend? All-american or not, God bless her, though I admired her and her accomplishments dearly - I doubt she could've drug the 193 pounds I eventually grew into, out of a fire.

    Sometimes certain limitations just are.

    But - prove me wrong, I dare ya.

    It'd be fun to see you destroy a certain record, regardless.

    See you at the gym.
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    Fair to middling. I'd only been stepmilling for about 6 weeks beforehand, and only doing the stepmill with weight for about 4 weeks. My training for the past 2-3 years has not had a lot of cardio in it, strongman is what it is. Soooo, at altitude, I got a whopping 2:20 before I had to get off the stepmill, or fall down. I wasn't upset, it was just an expensive practice test. So, onward and upward. Still training diligently for the 2/5 test in Phoenix.
    It's costing me about $450 to go take that one, so it's a do or die proposition. With a lower elevation + more training + pressure, it will get done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KelleeR View Post
    Soooo, at altitude, I got a whopping 2:20 before I had to get off the stepmill, or fall down.
    Yep. It takes a while to aclimate.

    Without developing the aerobic side your physiology, you won't be able to clear the lactic acid and CO2 produced by your strength fast enough; especially in the later part of the course - if you don't pace yourself.

    Have you discovered the Incline and/or Barr trail yet? Stepmilling is good - but hiking up hill with a pack for an hour, or two, or four... will generally produce a larger increase in VO2 max.

    And if you and your husband are Mountain Bikers... drop me a note. I'd be happy to give you a tour of Palmer Park and the other assorted gems that are in your new back yard ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wm25burke View Post
    Yep. It takes a while to aclimate.

    Without developing the aerobic side your physiology, you won't be able to clear the lactic acid produced by your strength fast enough; especially in the later part of the course.

    Have you discovered the Incline and/or Bar trail yet?
    No, I'm still in Mtn Home, Idaho. Not moving until late February. I'll hit both trails with gusto to get myself up to par once we get settled.

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    HAHA, between the Marine Corps, college, two daughters, and volunteering I don't have time for a hobby.

    J/K, when I get free time the wife and I, with the kids of course, like to go hiking, walking around old historic towns like New Bern, and watching movies. I used to be big into military history, but living it 24-7 kinda takes the allure away from that. But I do love reading my Fireengineering mags and other books. Whenever I get time to myself, which is very, very rare I like to either go driving around or fly fishing, not too many good places for the latter here on the Carolina coast though. Miss my mountains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxAlarm187 View Post
    Between my dad and I, we own three fire engines (2 Macks and a Pierce) so we enjoy playing around with those too. I also got a Dodge Charger this summer, so dressing and souping that up as been a lot of fun too!
    Is your dad living up on the Northern neck?

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