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    ..Methuen's fire chief says there could have been a tragic outcome when part of a ladder truck collapsed while crews battled a restaurant fire on Christmas morning, according to The Eagle Tribune.

    The incident dropped two firefighters onto the roof of Shadi's Restaurant & Lounge on Osgood Street after what Fire Chief Steven Buote describes as a "major structural failure" occurred.

    "It could have been a real tragedy," he told the newspaper.

    The rear left outrigger collapsed while two firefighters were in the bucket. The bucket dropped down about six inches onto the roof.

    The firefighters were briefly trapped and yelled for the truck's operator to get them out. Buote said they were lucky that the roof broke their fall.

    No one was injured, but the 1996 Nova Quintech was taken out of service and the department is without a ladder truck.

    "We're looking into maybe borrowing one from one of the departments around that may have a spare," Buote said.

    He said the outrigger collapse was most likely caused by "steel fatigue" and not by a lack of maintenance or rust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmcatee1 View Post
    No one was injured, but the 1996 Nova Quintech was taken out of service and the department is without a ladder truck.
    There's the first problem.......
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    Wonder who is doing the maintenance? T.C.

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    What is wrong with CANADIAN built fire apparatus??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reliance View Post
    What is wrong with CANADIAN built fire apparatus??
    Hmmmmm.......

    Thibault....Which were always piece of crap......

    Then you have Nova Quntech.......never saw one that didn't spend an extraordinary amount of time in the shops....


    And then you have the 2 biggest Canadian Revenges against the United States Military ever.....

    The Amertek 2500L MACI......One of the biggest pieces of schit I have ever had the displeasure of driving/operating.......

    and the Amertek.......can't think of the model but basically the equivalent of the P-19 crash truck....was so bad that most of the Drivers I worked with had our own coffee cups hanging up at the Motor Pool's kitchen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    There's the first problem.......
    Not the first time an outrigger failed or one of their rigs had major problems! It won't be the last.
    Stay Safe and Well Out There....

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    Well we have had one since 1995 and it gets inspected daily, weekly, monthly and yearly and has had no major problems.

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    Well we have had one since 1995 and it gets inspected daily, weekly, monthly and yearly and has had no major problems.
    Well that's 2, still a 50% failure rate...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPFDRum View Post
    Well that's 2, still a 50% failure rate...
    Think the odds are tipped the other way from 50%. NOT to the GOOD side. T.C.

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    The Thibault clan ran most of the Quebec apparatus manufacturers. Thibault, Pierreville, Phoenix, Nova Quintec etc. Of all the long gone Canadian Manufacturers, King Seagrave made some top quality stuff. Much better than the garbage from Quebec that we had.

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    FWIW, this particular truck has already spent a year at Pierce (who's now inherited these beasts, apparently) with issues. "Some kind of steel failure" is being blamed but there don't seem to be a lot of details coming out yet.

    Has anyone come across a picture of the failed outrigger? (or stabilizer -- reports vary as to which it was and I'm not familiar with NQ trucks)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post

    The Amertek 2500L MACI......One of the biggest pieces of schit I have ever had the displeasure of driving/operating.......

    and the Amertek.......can't think of the model but basically the equivalent of the P-19 crash truck....was so bad that most of the Drivers I worked with had our own coffee cups hanging up at the Motor Pool's kitchen.
    You talking about the Amertek 4000, a.k.a. the "money pit."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Command6 View Post
    You talking about the Amertek 4000, a.k.a. the "money pit."

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    AKA "take it over to the motor pool at least once a week to have all the lug nuts tightened." (among other things.........)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyMarshal View Post
    FWIW, this particular truck has already spent a year at Pierce
    Well, there's the problem right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    AKA "take it over to the motor pool at least once a week to have all the lug nuts tightened." (among other things.........)
    Turn the wheels around. Can't put the Left sided wheel on the Right sided hub. sheesh! T.c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue101 View Post
    Turn the wheels around. Can't put the Left sided wheel on the Right sided hub. sheesh! T.c.
    It's Canadian! What the hell do you want????
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    It's Canadian! What the hell do you want????
    Easy fella...

    Thibault made good aerial ladders and ground ladders actually, Nova Quintech not so good.

    BTW, we definitely know how to build the best Fireboats, not to get off topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    AKA "take it over to the motor pool at least once a week to have all the lug nuts tightened." (among other things.........)
    Gee, that sounds like the P-23's I had the misfourtune to be assigned to every now and again. Everyone joked around all the time about it until one of the tires (hub and axel attached) came off and crushed one of the SSgt's lexus....
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    Nova Quintech were so bad, Pierce bought the company

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    Quote Originally Posted by don120 View Post
    Nova Quintech were so bad, Pierce bought the company
    And probably no other move they have made in recent times has caused them as much heartburn. T.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue101 View Post
    And probably no other move they have made in recent times has caused them as much heartburn. T.C.
    Now T.C. be nice to us Canadians. We have some companies that make very good trucks.

    Take Metalfab in New Brunswick. They have built the first SSV to UL/ULC specifications in Canada. It is just up the road from me in Digby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reliance View Post
    Now T.C. be nice to us Canadians. We have some companies that make very good trucks.

    Take Metalfab in New Brunswick. They have built the first SSV to UL/ULC specifications in Canada. It is just up the road from me in Digby.
    TC has NO issues with his breathern to the Frosty North. DON'T think I'm misrepresenting anything in my above statement however. Our neighbors to the East have a Metalfab so the product is familiar to me. T.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanIsleEVT View Post
    Easy fella...

    Thibault made good aerial ladders and ground ladders actually, Nova Quintech not so good.
    Having been a Federal Firefighter, and also having several Thibault ladders in my Volunteer area, I can say with confidence that the only thing a Thibault ladder is good for is a boat anchor. Each and every single one of them that I have come across was a piece of junk.

    I have never used a Thibault ground ladder however if they are as good as the aerials, I'm not holding my breath.
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