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    We got new turnout gear and are seeing premature wear, Is anyone else having problems?

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    what exactly do you mean by premature wear?

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    Oh - your talking about it wearing out too soon - I thought you had guys sleeping in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sklump View Post
    We got new turnout gear and are seeing premature wear, Is anyone else having problems?
    Ah, maybe you could give a little more info. There are tons of different TO manufacturers and a skinny million material combinations that could lead to inaccurate comparisons. not to mention the frequency of use. What's "wearing out"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sklump View Post
    We got new turnout gear and are seeing premature wear, Is anyone else having problems?
    Yes.......
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    all depends on where the wear is.....where is the wear???

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFDACM02 View Post
    Ah, maybe you could give a little more info. There are tons of different TO manufacturers and a skinny million material combinations that could lead to inaccurate comparisons. not to mention the frequency of use. What's "wearing out"?
    This.... Need more info.

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    I am not looking for a comparison, the gear is 4 months old. It is showing wear in the crotch area and where the clips are on the coat behind the closure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sklump View Post
    I am not looking for a comparison, the gear is 4 months old. It is showing wear in the crotch area and where the clips are on the coat behind the closure.
    Geez. Talk about wanting something and offering nothing.

    Turnouts should not wear out in 4 months. With heavy use and cheap gear however, you might see it.

    Not knowing any particulars there is no way to address your question.

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    Have you taken this up with the dealer you bought it from ?
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    picture perhaps?

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    Does the gear fit properly? Was it measured to the wearer?
    Or is the crotch down by your knees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sklump View Post
    I am not looking for a comparison, the gear is 4 months old. It is showing wear in the crotch area and where the clips are on the coat behind the closure.


    Have the members STOP rubbing the crotch area. Should have had a larger rise in the crotch to begin with so nothing gets in a "bind"!!
    Stay Safe and Well Out There....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    Have the members STOP rubbing the crotch area. Should have had a larger rise in the crotch to begin with so nothing gets in a "bind"!!

    I got it! It is from the throngs of adoring women that follow all firefighters around rubbing him there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    I got it! It is from the throngs of adoring women that follow all firefighters around rubbing him there!
    Must be, huh??

    Are you one of these??
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    I just as soon not get into a bashing of the manufactor. The gear was custom fit. Has 5 calls on it and 1 structure fire. The salesman, manufactor reps have looked at it. It went to the gear company and then to the fabric company to analysis. They came to our startion and watched the extractor. No conclusion other than it is premature wear. They say we are the only ones with this concern and if it was the fabric others would have the problem. That is why I am asking the question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sklump View Post
    I just as soon not get into a bashing of the manufactor. The gear was custom fit. Has 5 calls on it and 1 structure fire. The salesman, manufactor reps have looked at it. It went to the gear company and then to the fabric company to analysis. They came to our startion and watched the extractor. No conclusion other than it is premature wear. They say we are the only ones with this concern and if it was the fabric others would have the problem. That is why I am asking the question?
    FWIW, it's not "bashing the manufacturer" to name them. The only way you're going to find out if others are having this problem is to identify the gear. The vendor has a vested interest in not mentioning anyone else having similar problems even if he knows about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    Must be, huh??

    Are you one of these??

    An adoring woman? No....

    Just an adored man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sklump View Post
    I just as soon not get into a bashing of the manufactor. The gear was custom fit. Has 5 calls on it and 1 structure fire. The salesman, manufactor reps have looked at it. It went to the gear company and then to the fabric company to analysis. They came to our startion and watched the extractor. No conclusion other than it is premature wear. They say we are the only ones with this concern and if it was the fabric others would have the problem. That is why I am asking the question?
    Are they trying to get out of replacing the gear under warranty?

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    Turnout trousers aren't designed to fit like normal trousers such as dickies, or whatever.

    When they are measured by the dealer or manufacturer they should be over the normal clothes the member would be wearing on a day to day basis.

    For instance I wear a 42 - 44 regular trouser. I wear a 46 - 48 waist in a turnout trouser.

    There has to be enough slack or space in the crotch, as to not bind or cause discomfort. You have to work in these garments so there has to be ample room for the member to squat down, climb a ladder or do other firefighting related task with the minimum of disfort or tightest in any area.

    Has the material worn through in that area?

    As why the crotch area is showing more wear over other parts is a mystery. Maybe they have been riding the see saw too much or sitting on a split rail fence.

    Regardless this shouldn't be happening and the manufacturers should take this into account since as you said most have only had one working fire.
    No one is knocking any maker of turnout clothes. If one of them has a problem with their garments, then the fire service as a whole needs to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sklump View Post
    I just as soon not get into a bashing of the manufactor. The gear was custom fit. Has 5 calls on it and 1 structure fire. The salesman, manufactor reps have looked at it. It went to the gear company and then to the fabric company to analysis. They came to our startion and watched the extractor. No conclusion other than it is premature wear. They say we are the only ones with this concern and if it was the fabric others would have the problem. That is why I am asking the question?
    By chance does it start with S?

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    Quit leaving it in the back of your pickups with the empty beer cans, skoal cans, hunting dogs and empty big mac wrappers. Dont wear them to snow play days. Stop changing the oil on the caterpillar in them. No more splitting wood in them. Carhart makes good tough clothes for you to feed the hogs in.
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    First off feeding hogs is a womans job. No S. The fit is right. This is happening to more than one set. And these are not big guys.

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    Is it the gear in your web page main photo?

    anyone?

    http://oxfordfirerescue.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by sklump View Post
    First off feeding hogs is a womans job. No S. The fit is right. This is happening to more than one set. And these are not big guys.
    G R E A T! There's goes ANOTHER screen. Does the gear Mfg start with S? T.c.

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