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    Default Firefighting-related Tattoos - for everyone?

    So a group of guys at the station all got fire-related tattoos last weekend. They look real nice, but of the group that got them, two were volunteers. Now, I'm of the mind do-whatever-you-want, but, aside from the career guys that got them as well, the rest of the guys at work are giving them both a lot of crap for getting them as volunteers. Personally I think a firefighter is a firefighter in this sense because in our department they do the same jobs and both of these guys have seen their share of real fire and rescue situations, but it got me thinking - what's the general consensus? What are your thoughts on volunteers getting firefighting tattoos?

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    I don't think Red Cross volunteers should have fire related tattoos. Neither should pizza delivery dudes, astronauts, baggage handlers, buisness executives, Hitler, taco truck drivers, mayonnaise manufacturers, school teachers, grave diggers, lottery ball spinners, big band leaders, ventriloquists, cops, burglars, hoteliers, sprocket distributors, babies, blacksmiths, cats, flowers, peanuts, bowlers, astronomers, soothsayers, dentists, prostitutes, seismologists, hobos, Justin Bieber, poets, morticians, zombies, bureaucrats, arm wrestlers, cashiers, the Pope, NASCAR drivers, mercenaries, or shrimp boat captains. But I can't stop them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisE34a View Post
    I think the forums have hit ROCK BOTTOM.

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    Loo, it has already had hit rock bottom before this thread hit the site.

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    I couldn't begin to pretend to care whether volunteers or career firefighters get tattoos or don't. And the fact that someone else doesn't approve of those tattoos sounds like a bunch of playground BS. Obviously some of the career guys didn't care that they were volunteers when they all went to get the tattoos originally so what's the big deal.

    Frankly I find nonsense like this ridiculous. How about we worry about the way the economy and politicians are shredding FD funding and staffing? How about we worry about our training levels? How about we worry about building construction that collapses within minutes of being exposed to fire? How about we worry about the new wave of charlatans who seek to destroy the fire service with their overzealous safety initiatives? Or isn't that as important as some guys giving other guys **** about their tattoos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    I couldn't begin to pretend to care whether volunteers or career firefighters get tattoos or don't. And the fact that someone else doesn't approve of those tattoos sounds like a bunch of playground BS. Obviously some of the career guys didn't care that they were volunteers when they all went to get the tattoos originally so what's the big deal.

    Frankly I find nonsense like this ridiculous. How about we worry about the way the economy and politicians are shredding FD funding and staffing? How about we worry about our training levels? How about we worry about building construction that collapses within minutes of being exposed to fire? How about we worry about the new wave of charlatans who seek to destroy the fire service with their overzealous safety initiatives? Or isn't that as important as some guys giving other guys **** about their tattoos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
    I don't think Red Cross volunteers should have fire related tattoos. Neither should pizza delivery dudes, astronauts, baggage handlers, buisness executives, Hitler, taco truck drivers, mayonnaise manufacturers, school teachers, grave diggers, lottery ball spinners, big band leaders, ventriloquists, cops, burglars, hoteliers, sprocket distributors, babies, blacksmiths, cats, flowers, peanuts, bowlers, astronomers, soothsayers, dentists, prostitutes, seismologists, hobos, Justin Bieber, poets, morticians, zombies, bureaucrats, arm wrestlers, cashiers, the Pope, NASCAR drivers, mercenaries, or shrimp boat captains. But I can't stop them.
    You forgot obama, John bell hood and Stonewall jackson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L-Webb View Post
    You forgot obama, John bell hood and Stonewall jackson.
    Why you gotta bring Stonewall Jackson into this?
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    If they want to risk getting Hepatitis or a nasty blood infection go right ahead and get the ink job, Don't make them any more a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L-Webb View Post
    You forgot obama, John bell hood and Stonewall jackson.
    But ole Ben Franklin rates one don't he?

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    Did they hold hands when they got their tattoos?

    Seriously though... who the hell cares?

    What are you 9 years old?
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    You ARE kidding, right?.... Sorry, I think that this is an incredible waste of time. If someone wants a Tattoo, Fine, that's their business. Personally, I really don't like Tattoos or Jewelry on Guys, but that's America, they're entitled to it........ Amend that to I really don't like Tattoos. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    Did they hold hands when they got their tattoos?

    Seriously though... who the hell cares?

    What are you 9 years old?
    I'm not 9 years old, no. Nor do I care that they got them. I was fine with it. I'm among those who thinks it's ridiculous the career guys who did care flipped them sh*t. No one said it made them more manly, nor was that the intent. My only question was if I was just somehow out of line and these career guys were somehow acting accordingly to give people they deem, "just volunteers," hell for getting a firefighting related tattoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Frankly I find nonsense like this ridiculous. How about we worry about the way the economy and politicians are shredding FD funding and staffing? How about we worry about our training levels?
    A mid-level manager was ranting and raving about a two dollar item on a subordinates expense voucher.

    One of his employees asked, "Boss, you deal with hundreds of thousands of dollars every day - why worry about two bucks?"

    The boss replied, "To be perfectly honest with you, all those hundreds of thousands of dollars are just too much to comprehend. But two dollars - that I understand."

    Funding, staffing, training - those are items we can't usually directly affect as individuals. But a tattoo - that we understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    Dirty Axe - No Problem with the Messenger Bro. I just think that those who are stirrin' stuff back at the station are idiots.......
    I agree! And it's probably no coincidence that the ones putting them down are our most overweight and relatively lazy career guys. Low self-esteem maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tree68 View Post
    A mid-level manager was ranting and raving about a two dollar item on a subordinates expense voucher.

    One of his employees asked, "Boss, you deal with hundreds of thousands of dollars every day - why worry about two bucks?"

    The boss replied, "To be perfectly honest with you, all those hundreds of thousands of dollars are just too much to comprehend. But two dollars - that I understand."

    Funding, staffing, training - those are items we can't usually directly affect as individuals. But a tattoo - that we understand.
    So let me understand this. Some guys get tattoos. Some other guys give them **** about that. Sounds like a normal day in the firehouse. Golly what would happen if a guy gave you **** about your car? Or dog? Or neighborhood you live in? Would it call for hand holding and meetings about sensitivity? Geezus grow the hell up and move on.

    A tattoo versus the issues I mentioned is a pimple on the *** of the fire service in level of importance. If you believe you have NO influence on any issues you are right.
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    In NY, you have to submit an application to get a tattoo to the State Fire Administrator. He'll make a determination based on design, department affiliation, status as career, part time, paid on call, or volunteer, time on the job, and whatever else he feels. Once approved you may get the tattoo affixed to your skin. Unauthorized tattoos will be forcibly removed. Currently the NYSPFFA is lobbying to have the ding dongs banned from having tattoos, and all existing ones removed. I am wholeheartedly support this. I am ok with part timers having tattoos as long as they log an average of 20 or more hours a week.

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    Tell your vollies to grow a set, 1. If they can't stand up for themselves they need to find a new line if work. 2. If they can't defend the ink they put on them selves they had no business getting them.


    Thats coming from a tattooed volly/paid firefighter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nameless View Post
    In NY, you have to submit an application to get a tattoo to the State Fire Administrator. He'll make a determination based on design, department affiliation, status as career, part time, paid on call, or volunteer, time on the job, and whatever else he feels. Once approved you may get the tattoo affixed to your skin. Unauthorized tattoos will be forcibly removed. Currently the NYSPFFA is lobbying to have the ding dongs banned from having tattoos, and all existing ones removed. I am wholeheartedly support this. I am ok with part timers having tattoos as long as they log an average of 20 or more hours a week.
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    Nope, its a great system. Really cuts down on the ugly tattoos. I forgot to mention you can only go to certain tattoo parlors that are registered with the state for firefighter tattoos. It'll be such a sweet day when the vollys can get tat's anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Axe View Post
    I'm not 9 years old, no. Nor do I care that they got them. I was fine with it. I'm among those who thinks it's ridiculous the career guys who did care flipped them sh*t. No one said it made them more manly, nor was that the intent. My only question was if I was just somehow out of line and these career guys were somehow acting accordingly to give people they deem, "just volunteers," hell for getting a firefighting related tattoo.

    Don't shoot the messenger!
    Are you telling me you really need help figuring this whole thing out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nameless View Post
    Nope, its a great system. Really cuts down on the ugly tattoos. I forgot to mention you can only go to certain tattoo parlors that are registered with the state for firefighter tattoos. It'll be such a sweet day when the vollys can get tat's anymore.
    Oh I remember this! It's not a new idea I remember this from news reals from the 1940's but it was hard to understand because the narration was in GERMAN!

    It's my own opinion but that's the stupidest thing I have ever heard, it borders on the line of mental retardation.
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    Nameless I apologize, in this fading republic I could see something like that, honestly my bad.
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    Let's go to the Pm's bud this thread doesn't need any more derailment. Let's see YOU put your money where your mouth is and see if you wanna keep this up out of the publics eye, where your trolling can't pollute anything else. Balls in your court
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