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    Hey guys! Quick question. We have purchased our first washing machine/extractor for washing our turnout gear. The directions on this machine say to fill the base (a steel box that is about 8 -10" deep) with concrete. I was wondering if some of you that have machines like this could tell me if that is REALLY needed. Our plans were to achor it to the floor through the concrete floor. Just thought I would get some advice here too. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GVFD5 View Post
    Hey guys! Quick question. We have purchased our first washing machine/extractor for washing our turnout gear. The directions on this machine say to fill the base (a steel box that is about 8 -10" deep) with concrete. I was wondering if some of you that have machines like this could tell me if that is REALLY needed. Our plans were to achor it to the floor through the concrete floor. Just thought I would get some advice here too. Thanks!

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    how thick is the floor slab in your station? Most are no more than 4-6 inches. The manufacturers installation instructions should be followed. Go look in a commercial Laundromat , theirs will be mounted into a concrete pedestal, for a reason. Commercial extractors produce a lot of torque and will move and possibly tip if not mounted properly.
    Failure to follow manufacturers instructions could void the warrantee.

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    Yes...

    When we built the new station we had to have a 12" thick pad poured to accommodate the new extractor. IIRC extractors spin at 3-4 times the speed of conventional washing machines hence the need for the additional support.

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    Thanks guys. We will be pouring concrete! I appreciate the inputs
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    I watched ours when it was installed and they def used the concrete. It does spin like crazy so like everyone else has said you should.

    I love ours btw

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    I have heard that an unsecured extractor with an unbalanced load is quite a menacing sight when it starts dancing around during the spin cycle.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LFD2203 View Post
    I have heard that an unsecured extractor with an unbalanced load is quite a menacing sight when it starts dancing around during the spin cycle.....
    My home washing machine does that. I can imagine what a "high horsepower" machine like an extractor would do.

    And, as I recall, there is a concrete block already installed in my home washer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LFD2203 View Post
    I have heard that an unsecured extractor with an unbalanced load is quite a menacing sight when it starts dancing around during the spin cycle.....
    It's also loud.... wicked loud!
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    My dept purchased a soft mount Continental brand machine a few years ago on a grant. All we had to do was add in a 3" drain for this, and it was ready to go. No drilling into the floor or having to pour an extra pad. And I can't say it has moved from where we set it down.
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    Does that contintental have a true extractor built into it? Not spin cycle, but a true extraction mode.

    I would not want one without a hefty anchor

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    Unbalanced loads can cause damage, mmkay:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TqBS...eature=related

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    LVFD, it does have the true extraction. We had to go with the non-bolt down model due to having heating coils in the floor, and no way to get around them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RxFire View Post
    LVFD, it does have the true extraction. We had to go with the non-bolt down model due to having heating coils in the floor, and no way to get around them.
    You can get around that by pouring an appropriate slab on top of your floor. We were able to bolt ours down(no in floor heat) but there are USUALLY alternative mounting methods. T.C.

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    Me and my ex used to pile wet towels in one side of the washer to get it out of balance and "do laundry" - the new self balancing ones ruined that -I bet an extractor would be a ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GVFD5 View Post
    Hey guys! Quick question. We have purchased our first washing machine/extractor for washing our turnout gear. The directions on this machine say to fill the base (a steel box that is about 8 -10" deep) with concrete. I was wondering if some of you that have machines like this could tell me if that is REALLY needed. Our plans were to achor it to the floor through the concrete floor. Just thought I would get some advice here too. Thanks!

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    Why the heck isn't the supplier installing it? That is "normal". Eliminates all the issues when you have warranty work come up. Sometimes cheapest isn't least expensive.

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