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    Quote Originally Posted by dmfireschool View Post
    Below are the testing subjects for the 2011 Dallas exam.

    Mathematics
    Reading Comprehension
    Spelling
    Ability to Read and Interpret Maps
    Mechanical Aptitude
    Attention to Detail

    Test Taking Strategies for the exam can be found at the link below.
    http://www.fireprep.com/test-taking_...s_for_fir.html

    Exam Prep for the 20100 Dallas exam can be found at the link below.
    http://www.fireprep.com/dallas_firef...mination1.html


    Assistant Chief Brent Collins, Cleveland Fire Dept.
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    More Career articles by Chief Collins can be found at the link below
    http://cms.firehouse.com/content/con.../bio.jsp?id=17
    Save your money. Dallas is unique in that the civil service exam is VERY general and is not scored like a "regular" civil service exam. Self-promotions of one's "test prep" course will not provide any "edge" to you doing well on the exam.

    When I took my test, it was written for someone with a HS diploma or GED. The college hour requirement was what the paramedic school required for admission into their program.

    The written exam comprised of several parts. One was basic math and english questions. Another section required you to draw a line through a maze without touching the sides or lifting your pencil.

    The last part was a 100-question "psychological" test that required you to answer each question with a "yes" or "no".

    When you completed the exam, you received three scores number one through six. For example, you might get a grade of 1-2-1. That is a competive score. Although someone with a 6-6-6 would technically pass, typically anyone with a "3" or up (4, 5, or 6) in any category did not progress through the hiring process.

    Unless Dallas' Civil Service Department tells you otherwise, know basic math and reading/comprehension stuff and answer all psychological eval questions truthfully and consistently.

    Fire schools, such as the one above, will claim they have the "edge" on test stuff but are really no better than a generic FF test prep guide available at Barnes & Noble or Borders. The generic test-prep guides are alot cheaper too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas0012 View Post
    Yeah, I was tripped up by that as well. Nothing against Dallas, but it isn't even the most aggressive FD in the DFW area, much less the state (Houston ?), much less the nation (FDNY, Balt, Detroit) ?

    Good luck to all the candidates.
    What do you define as "aggressive"? Maybe folks here are confusing that will "progressive".

    Dallas is VERY aggressive when it comes to firefighting. Are we progressive? Not really. Wheels of change don't spin very fast here (or any big city for that matter).

    If I had to compare the aggressiveness of fire departments in Texas, I'd say all of the big cities (Houston, Austin, Dallas, San Antonio, and Fort Worth) are equally aggressive largely because we fight alot of fires. These are not necessarily huge high-rise fires but rather your 1-story, wood-frame, "bread and butter" house fires.

    Most of the suburbs surrounding these towns didn't really "grow up" until the last 20-30 years so most of the stuff there is fairly new. Most of the suburbs around Dallas and Fort Worth (each on opposite sides of the DFW Metroplex) may fight one or two working house fires a year. I don't discount the pride and aggressiveness of the folks in these little towns at all - they just don't have the opportunity to gain good experience that is often associated with the opportunity to answer a large volume of working fires.

    Most of your "good" working house fires occur in the more economically-depressed parts of town. The rich suburbs are relatively "fire safe" (as told to me once by a Captain in one of these town who hadn't laid a 5-inch supply line in many, many years).

    The newer an area you work in, the slower you will likely be with regards to fire suppression. Stuff in the new 'burbs are built to current (and likely safer) building codes = fires that usually occur due to human error and rarely due to age or substandard repairs/construction. These towns are often busy, however, with EMS runs because that is where folks move to retire and take it easy.

    The bulk of your big, multiple-alarm fires in a big city will often come from apartment fires, specifically in old apartment buildings. Commercial building fires occur but are alot rarer than house and apartment fires. Industrial fires are ever rarer.

    If you want to address "progressiveness", that is open to how you interpret that term. I'd venture to say the little guys (suburbs) will beat the big city guys hands down largely because of the amount of time it takes to implement change (policies, procedures, and mindset/attitude) in a department with 100 stations vs. 3 or 4.
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    Got my App in!!

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    Quit worring about precents and chances! Roll the dice, see what happens. Your mindset was the same as mine two years ago when i applied, i got hired out of 2000 people with EMT-B and 90 college credits. They will package your cpat,poly, and interview into two or three days in a row so your dont have to make mulple trips. As far as Mesquite the past two years they have hire a total of 5

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    DFD10, Your posting is Rad. I'm in. That is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DFD10 View Post
    Quit worring about precents and chances! Roll the dice, see what happens. Your mindset was the same as mine two years ago when i applied, i got hired out of 2000 people with EMT-B and 90 college credits. They will package your cpat,poly, and interview into two or three days in a row so your dont have to make mulple trips. As far as Mesquite the past two years they have hire a total of 5
    Thanks for the info. I was wondering if they would make it so the out of towners wouldnt have to make a bunch of trips. Plane tickets out of Cleveland to DFW are not the cheapest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Boy View Post
    Thanks for the info. I was wondering if they would make it so the out of towners wouldnt have to make a bunch of trips. Plane tickets out of Cleveland to DFW are not the cheapest.
    Tickets from Boston are not cheap either but I am doing this test. I couldn't do Austin cause I couldn't get out of work but there will be no way I miss the dallas test. Good luck everybody taking it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Boy View Post
    Thanks for the info. I was wondering if they would make it so the out of towners wouldnt have to make a bunch of trips. Plane tickets out of Cleveland to DFW are not the cheapest.
    Let the personnel folks that you are 1) from out of town; and 2) that you would appreciate the opportunity to combine as much of the preliminary stuff in as close a time frame as possible to minimize your trips to the greatest extent possible.

    I did the same thing - I was in town from Sunday night through Friday evening but I got a bunch of stuff done at once. You'll live out of a hotel for a week and run the tires off your rental car but it'll save you time & effort in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfwfirefighter View Post
    Let the personnel folks that you are 1) from out of town; and 2) that you would appreciate the opportunity to combine as much of the preliminary stuff in as close a time frame as possible to minimize your trips to the greatest extent possible.

    I did the same thing - I was in town from Sunday night through Friday evening but I got a bunch of stuff done at once. You'll live out of a hotel for a week and run the tires off your rental car but it'll save you time & effort in the end.
    Thank DFW-I will definately be doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfwfirefighter View Post
    Let the personnel folks that you are 1) from out of town; and 2) that you would appreciate the opportunity to combine as much of the preliminary stuff in as close a time frame as possible to minimize your trips to the greatest extent possible.

    I did the same thing - I was in town from Sunday night through Friday evening but I got a bunch of stuff done at once. You'll live out of a hotel for a week and run the tires off your rental car but it'll save you time & effort in the end.
    yes, thankyou very much

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    I've asked this s before, but can anyone give any insight to what they check for medically and if they check your medical history. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireChick9169 View Post
    I've asked this s before, but can anyone give any insight to what they check for medically and if they check your medical history. Thanks!
    It will consist of an evaluation of your complete medical history as well as a physical and mental evaluation.

    What specifically are you worried about them finding out?
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    A question for anybody who works for DFW. What was the time frame from the close of the application process to the actual written test date? Thanks

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    well I had knee surgery and have a few other issues.... but now I am completely healthy and rehabbed. Just don't want to even get into the process if they aren't going to want to hire me because of these past issues.

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    FYI Called to just confirm that Dallas had received my transcripts. Don't do this, and I quote, "We don't have time to stop our hiring process to check each and every canidate's transcripts for them." Roger that.

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    Good to know - I almost just called to check the same thing. I guess I'll go with trusting my alma mater can effectively send transcripts!

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    Good luck with that...seems to me to be rather sad. Their job is to recruit/help/inform these individuals throughout the hiring process. So they should be able to look this up for you, if not "at that moment", then they should at least be able to get back with you in an e-mail or a courtesy phone call. I know they have thousands of candidates, but again, this is their job.
    So what they are basically saying is, "we have enough applicants, if you get missed...sorry. We have plenty of people just like you and we will get our guy". Again, goodluck...this is the unfortunate part of big city hiring. You have thousands of people who want the job and well, you are just one applicant, just like thousands of others like yourself on paper. Sorry to hear that man, it shouldn't be that way.

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    Eh no worries. Super pumped to be testing, sounds like they will be hiring a bunch.

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    Two questions. After reading through this forum I get the impression that this is a testing process for a one year list. Am I correct? Secondly, are there any preference points given for any reason, vet, resident, etc?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam_Smith View Post
    Two questions. After reading through this forum I get the impression that this is a testing process for a one year list. Am I correct? Secondly, are there any preference points given for any reason, vet, resident, etc?
    I'm not for certain if it is a one-year list or not, but I do know the pool of applicants from the test administered in 2003 was exhausted in 2005. The next test was held on April 4, 2006. Unless things have changed, that may indicate how long they hold on to the list.

    I have not come across any preference points as of yet for the exams. However, I do believe things like experience and military background are considered during the panel reviews.

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    How often does DFD have a k day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam_Smith View Post
    FYI Called to just confirm that Dallas had received my transcripts. Don't do this, and I quote, "We don't have time to stop our hiring process to check each and every canidate's transcripts for them." Roger that.
    Although I can appreciate the workload that a recruiter for a large department must have, it sounds to me like you got a lazy one.

    It takes all of 5 minutes to open a file, look in it, and confirm whether or not something is in it.

    When in doubt, send more. The nice thing about transcripts is that your college(s) will mail it/them for free to wherever you choose. If you have any doubt about whether or not you paperwork is in order, send one a week until THEY tell you to "stop sending... we have your stuff".

    Laziness goes both ways... the same recruiter that wouldn't look at your stuff will get tired of filing your stuff and will eventually call YOU and say "you're good with your paperwork".

    Feel free to play "dumb" and tell him "I don't know what you are talking about... I sent that stuff to you months ago..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfwfirefighter View Post
    When in doubt, send more. The nice thing about transcripts is that your college(s) will mail it/them for free to wherever you choose. If you have any doubt about whether or not you paperwork is in order, send one a week until THEY tell you to "stop sending... we have your stuff".
    I wish my college mailed them for free! =/

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    Scheduled for the test. Saw this on governmentjobs.com March 29th at 9 AM. Bummer, wish it were on a weekend. Oh well, too bad so sad. See you guys there and good luck!!

    Anyone flying out want to share a room and maybe a rental care the night before?? send me a message.

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