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    Default Over the top POV's

    Recently I saw someone link another website that people use to buy/sell/trade lights and sirens. They had a lot of good info but after looking at the forums of the users pov's it shocked my how many people in my opinion go way over the top and have 2,000 dollars or more stuffed in their pov for lights. I honestly believe about 40% of them actually had more lights on them then most of our apparatus in town!

    I am not going to knock anyone for having a dash light or having some lighting but really? This makes me think twice about where their heart really is in this service. I went all out and have a cheap dash light I got second had for free. Maybe other states it could be different but I still have to observe the speed limits and traffic right-of-way. I am not given any special "rights" to make sure I beat you to the station.

    I am not attacking anyone, I am just asking where does this go from a passion of helping people to an obsession of who has the most lights?


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    What you just posted could be used in a term paper called "Wackers: What They Are and What They Do".

    My experience has been that the more lights they have, the less they need them. I can tolerate 360-degree visibility if that's what they want, although here in KY it's not required. But you are 100% right. Some of these guys are all about red-light fever.
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    You're probably talking about elightbars, the wacker kingdom of the world...

    I have 360 visibility, but, it's very, VERY conservative now. They are all interior LED's, and unless you're really looking, you can only see one when they are not switched on.

    The people with a bar, AND dashlights in two different heights in the windshield, AND in the grill, AND in the bumper, AND down the side of the truck, well, you see where I'm going. That's too far. That's just, ridiculously too far.

    If you want lights, peachy. Follow your statutes, and make sure it looks nice, and not like it has three full Engine's worth of lights on it.

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    I am Fire Police in Pa and have 1 lightbar. We respond POV and use our POV's at the scene. I rarely have the lights on when I'm responding. Always while at the scene.

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    HAHA, this reminds me of the funniest POV I've ever seen. It was a P.O.S. 80's Chevette with a fullsize lightbar, a dash light mounted above the mirror, a dash light on the dash, wig wags, two LED units in the grille, strobes in the tail lights, two single unit window mounted deck lights in the rear window, and a Federal E-Q2B. I still don't know how he ran all of that crap on the old crappy electrical system and small power plant that Chevette had. Further more, I don't see how he kept it from tipping over with that huge light bar on it, haha.

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    You know your lightbar is too big for your vehicle when you have to put clearance lights on the ends and you bump your head on it when you get out...

    It doesn't matter what your interest is. You can always find someone who will take it to the extreme. Take train horns, for instance:
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    Quote Originally Posted by tree68 View Post
    It doesn't matter what your interest is. You can always find someone who will take it to the extreme. Take train horns, for instance:
    HA! I've seen these guys on YouTube, too funny.
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    Guilty ,also bought High , Low and Ultra High radios
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    Quote Originally Posted by ff36ofd View Post
    Guilty ,also bought High , Low and Ultra High radios
    HAHA, unless you have way more lights then what I can see here, that relly isn't that bad. At least your truck is the size of an apparatus (kinda partial here, had a 2001 F250 with a V10, miss the truck, don't miss the fuel mileage).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ff36ofd View Post
    Guilty ,also bought High , Low and Ultra High radios

    No 800? No second VHF so you can lock one on a specific channel? Scanners? HF? P25 capability? And of course, the most important XM?

    I have 9 radios in my truck, and still no use of the airbag zones. It is nicely done, so my wife even does not complain. Much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    I have 9 radios in my truck, and still no use of the airbag zones. It is nicely done, so my wife even does not complain. Much.

    My wife is complaining. A little bit. I haven't put any Radios in her new Cadillac DTS yet, and she wants a Scanner. Now. So, guess what my weekend chore is gonna be?.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    I have 9 radios in my truck, and still no use of the airbag zones. It is nicely done, so my wife even does not complain. Much.
    9 radios! That would probably sound like a 1st grade class after eating pixie sticks... a whole lot of noise and I cant understand any of it haha.

    I keep it simple, 1 radio and 1 light. Its cheaper this way too.

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    Harve, it sounds like she is a smart lady.

    It should be understood, I don't have all those radios for the Fire Service, I also use them for dealing with my customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    My wife is complaining. A little bit. I haven't put any Radios in her new Cadillac DTS yet, and she wants a Scanner. Now. So, guess what my weekend chore is gonna be?.....
    I've done some nice stealthy clean installs in my life.. check out www.radioreference.com. They have some install forums that might give you some ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    My wife is complaining. A little bit. I haven't put any Radios in her new Cadillac DTS yet, and she wants a Scanner. Now. So, guess what my weekend chore is gonna be?.....
    HAHA, I never had to worry about that with my wife. She never wanted to listen to the scanner I had at the house when I was at Dalton, she said she was too afraid of what she'd hear over it one day when I was on shift. I guess she had a point.

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    In Connecticut, volunteers are allowed to run blue lights. Most of the people in my department run a single dash light or grille lights. I have seen very responsible driving from everyone that has blue lights. The people that have a lot of lights are even more responsible. The majority of the time they stop on the scene, especially for medical aids. The lights are very crucial for their safety when they stop. Like I said, I haven't seen any irresponsibility from my department or any of the departments near me doing anything stupid with them. They wait at traffic lights, they stop at stop signs, and they don't speed. I've never seen anything other than this. Just my .02

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    No 800? No second VHF so you can lock one on a specific channel? Scanners? HF? P25 capability? And of course, the most important XM?

    I have 9 radios in my truck, and still no use of the airbag zones. It is nicely done, so my wife even does not complain. Much.
    I thought all you needed was one portable with 400 channel scan cabability Blake. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam24u View Post
    I thought all you needed was one portable with 400 channel scan cabability Blake. LOL
    That's OK if all you're going to do is listen. If you need to talk, you'll need a radio for each band...

    To be able to talk to all of the agencies in my county, I'd need four radios. Start talking bordering counties and I'm up to five. And that's just for fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tree68 View Post
    You know your lightbar is too big for your vehicle when you have to put clearance lights on the ends and you bump your head on it when you get out...

    It doesn't matter what your interest is. You can always find someone who will take it to the extreme. Take train horns, for instance:

    So, Yours is the one on the Left, I presume??.......



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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    I've done some nice stealthy clean installs in my life.. check out www.radioreference.com. They have some install forums that might give you some ideas.


    Thanks Ken. I've been a subscriber with them for some time.......
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