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    I'm not trying to **** anybody off here but I'm just sitting around pondering the thought one of my professors was talking of today. He stated that with the fire retardant materials that are coming out now a days and who knows what else in the future that one day fire fighters will not fight fires much or at all. Now I understand that they are still a lot of old buildings out there and they will remain there but I am just thinking down the line. We came across this subject when he asked what we wanted to do and I said I wanted to be a firefighter. I guess he was maybe trying to make me second guess it(which im not) or if he was just discussing. But anyways does anyone have any thoughts on this?

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    Plastics burn hotter and nastier (toxicity) than the natural materials they have replaced. Some products MAY be more fire retardant, but just think about how many things are now made from plastic where they used to be wood, metal, whatever. Whole lotta burning gonna continue until long after we're retired.

    BTW, in my experience "Professors" are some of the STUPIDEST people alive.
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    Hell, we have google and wikipedia now, why do we need a professor ;-)

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    There is no way for the firefighting profession to become extinct. Why? Because we do so much. Even if the number of fires goes down, fire departments do alot more than fight fires. Depending on your jurisdiction, fire departments often provide the following services:
    1. EMS
    2. Rescue (auto extrication, confined space, water rescue, etc.)
    3. Hazardous Material response
    4. Inspections
    5. ARFF
    6. Wildland firefighting

    and a host of other services to the communities we protect. Firefighting has become specialized. You cannot take anyone off the street, like in past years, to do the work of the fire department. You have to possess certifications, participate in training and other qualifications. Everything is run to standards and the fire service is no different.

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    I didn't quite think of those types of materials. I was being narrow minded I guess by thinking of only materials such as the fire retardant sheetrock and other building materials. I couldn't agree with you both more about professors! Sometimes I wonder why they even get paid lol.

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    Tell me when they make fire resistant tree's.
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    I'm still waiting on a flying car. They were promised for the year 2000....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    I'm still waiting on a flying car. They were promised for the year 2000....

    I see those all the time. Usually the result of alcohol, youth, speed, and a curve in the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIRE117 View Post
    There is no way for the firefighting profession to become extinct. Why? Because we do so much. Even if the number of fires goes down, fire departments do alot more than fight fires. Depending on your jurisdiction, fire departments often provide the following services:
    1. EMS
    2. Rescue (auto extrication, confined space, water rescue, etc.)
    3. Hazardous Material response
    4. Inspections
    5. ARFF
    6. Wildland firefighting

    and a host of other services to the communities we protect. Firefighting has become specialized. You cannot take anyone off the street, like in past years, to do the work of the fire department. You have to possess certifications, participate in training and other qualifications. Everything is run to standards and the fire service is no different.
    After all that - we can burn books!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
    Those who can't do...teach.
    Well I would Like to nominate this for Post of the Month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    After all that - we can burn books!
    Horrible flashbacks of reading Fahrenheit 451.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyLow View Post
    Horrible flashbacks of reading Fahrenheit 451.
    I wondered if anyone would get it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
    Those who can't do...teach.
    And those that can't teach, administrate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BULL321 View Post
    And those that can't teach, administrate!
    Me, I will just sit here and ma.. never mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccarlin52 View Post
    I didn't quite think of those types of materials. I was being narrow minded I guess by thinking of only materials such as the fire retardant sheetrock and other building materials. I couldn't agree with you both more about professors! Sometimes I wonder why they even get paid lol.

    Probably the same way you are so worried about fuel costs affecting the fire service.

    Go back to school and knock the dogshyit out of the prof! Tell he or she , until he has done atleast 15 to 20 years in this business, to stick to fooling the school and the students.
    Stay Safe and Well Out There....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefKN View Post
    I'm still waiting on a flying car. They were promised for the year 2000....
    http://www.terrafugia.com/

    The deposit's only $10K.

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    I'm still waiting on a flying car. They were promised for the year 2000....

    Another Merle Haggard Fan, I presume............
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    well i would like to nominate this for post of the month.

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    To many idiots in this world to not have fire. They would have to do a lot more than some fire retardant materials, look at all the wildland fires that spread like crazy. To many things that are flamable to fireproof everything. Nice concept though, I will store that one right next to global warming as I stand by for our umpteenth night this year of adverse winter weather here in Tennessee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    Another Merle Haggard Fan, I presume............
    Who wants some Rainbow Stew?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushwhacker View Post
    Tell me when they make fire resistant tree's.
    They do NOW if you pound enough Salt into them. Hehe T.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    After all that - we can burn books!
    HEY,I saw a movie on that,hehe T.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    Probably the same way you are so worried about fuel costs affecting the fire service.

    Go back to school and knock the dogshyit out of the prof! Tell he or she , until he has done atleast 15 to 20 years in this business, to stick to fooling the school and the students.
    Been burning dwellings and businesses flat for over 200 years. I HIGHLY Doubt that is gonna change in the next twenty. T.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    Probably the same way you are so worried about fuel costs affecting the fire service.

    Go back to school and knock the dogshyit out of the prof! Tell he or she , until he has done atleast 15 to 20 years in this business, to stick to fooling the school and the students.
    Couldn't agree more with that last part!



    Thanks to all who replied for your input!

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