Does anyone know how FDNY prepares there high rise packs?
Here is what the load looks like.
http://www.apexvfd.org/photos/traini...s/DSCN2440.jpg
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01-23-2011, 04:44 PM #1
FDNY High rise load
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01-23-2011, 04:58 PM #2Forum Member
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That picture is not an FDNY high rise pack.
Are you asking what they carry? or are you asking what is shown in the picture?
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01-23-2011, 05:02 PM #3
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01-23-2011, 07:53 PM #4Forum Member
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that doesn't look very easy to carry on your shoulder. Kind of wide, looks thick and too short to fold over your shoulder or tank too well.
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01-23-2011, 08:42 PM #5
Well. I wanna try it. So I would like to know how to fold it.
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01-23-2011, 08:47 PM #6
Go to Page 12 of the following document, there are several diagrams to show how the fold is made:
http://sageauthoring.com/fdny/ft&p/ftpeng07.pdf
FWIW, we adopted the FDNY load at work about three years ago after we had a committee of firefighters and line officers spend six months deploying different high-rise folds over 300 times. A majority of our uses for the HRP are in mid-rises, and we've found that it works exceptionally well narrow stairways or stairwells without a center well.Career Fire Lieutenant
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01-23-2011, 09:03 PM #7
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01-24-2011, 04:59 PM #8MembersZone Subscriber
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High Rise Packs
Huh, sounds interesting..... Got any pics? We are also looking at changing your Hotel/Deep Stretch Bundles. Honestly, I want to see them taken off our Truck/Quint.that is not how we pack our standpipe hose..we 1/2 the hose and the butts are in the middle of the folds..."Be LOUD, Be PROUD..... It just might save your can someday when goin' through an intersection!!!!!"
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01-24-2011, 09:22 PM #9ALL GAVE SOME BUT SOME GAVE ALL
NEVER FORGET 9-11-01
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CAPT. Frank Callahan Ladder 35 *
LT. John Ginley Engine 40
FF. Bruce Gary Engine 40
FF. Jimmy Giberson Ladder 35
FF. Michael Otten Ladder 35 *
FF. Steve Mercado Engine 40 *
FF. Kevin Bracken Engine 40 *
FF. Vincent Morello Ladder 35
FF. Michael Roberts Ladder 35 *
FF. Michael Lynch Engine 40
FF. Michael Dauria Engine 40
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01-28-2011, 04:16 PM #10
High rise packs
Follow this link and you can see a few different high rise pack set ups, and the best part is a couple of them are series on how to use and deploy those loads during fire attack. http://www.firevidz.com/category/fir...ose/high-rise/
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01-29-2011, 12:22 AM #11
Nope. That's not the fold as the one pictured.
The picture is of a hi-rise pack with the butts ending on the top of the load, not in the middle as shown in the FDNY SOP's.
I have used, and liked the style of load in the photograph. If the left strap was moved slightly inward, the sections can be set down and coupled while still bundled together. This load is used by some engine companies within the FDNY. There was an article in WNYF describing the load and showing how to make it. I think it was a 2005 or 2006 edition. You may be able to get a back issue. Google WNYF and you should be able to get contact info.Robert Kramer
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02-09-2011, 01:59 AM #12Forum Member
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You are referencing old books. The current fold might have only been in a WNYF article.
The current FDNY rollup fold is the same as the picture in the original post.
Here's the simple instructions:
Fold the hose in half, so the couplings are touching.
keep folding the hose in half on top of itself until your rollup looks like the picture.
Secure it with an ems strap or helmet rubber (go with the ems buckle)
Pros over the old FDNY rollup -
you can connect all the lengths together without detaching the buckles
After connecting, the nozzle man can take his whole rollup like a length off the backstep
In line gauge and nozzle can be attached all the time
EASY to fold.
Cons -
The threads are exposed (some companies put caps on the male couplings)
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