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    Are there any mfg's still mounting the 54ft Squrt articulating boom on a new engine? I know ALF was but are they now or are any others?
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    Default ALF 54' Squrt

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    ALF in fact does still make and sell the 54' Squrt! It is available to other manufacturers. Send me a PM for additional information!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfd100 View Post
    Are there any mfg's still mounting the 56ft Squrt articulating boom on a new engine? I know ALF was but are they now or are any others?
    Isn't the Squrt telescopic? The Snorkel articulated but ALF stopped manufacturing them.

    The Snozzle articulates and is available to several manufacturers. If you want to PM me I can give you more info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SFD_E73_RET View Post
    Isn't the Squrt telescopic? The Snorkel articulated but ALF stopped manufacturing them.

    The Snozzle articulates and is available to several manufacturers. If you want to PM me I can give you more info.
    That would be the Tele-Squrt

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    Per American LaFrance's Ephrata, PA plant via e-mail this afternoon - they will still build the 54-foot articulating Squrt to order, although they have not delivered one since 1998.
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    I'm sure any manufacturer would be willing to mount one if you spec'd one, but other than maybe an industrial fire brigade I don't see much use for one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsb View Post
    I'm sure any manufacturer would be willing to mount one if you spec'd one, but other than maybe an industrial fire brigade I don't see much use for one.
    New Orleans runs several engines with squirts. They are extremly handy for getting a protective stream between structures in the narrower streets of the older parts of the city - French Quarter, Garden District, old Riverfront Area, etc where getting a ladder company is either impossible or very difficult.
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    The name of the machine is TeleSQURT.

    Pierce builds and calls them SKY BOOM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    New Orleans runs several engines with squirts. They are extremly handy for getting a protective stream between structures in the narrower streets of the older parts of the city - French Quarter, Garden District, old Riverfront Area, etc where getting a ladder company is either impossible or very difficult.
    Why wouldn't they go with a Tele-Squrt or a quint type arrangement? The Squrt's just seem limited in their use.

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    We had a '04 Pierce Enforcer with a 65' ALF Tele-Squrt on it. Great versatile unit IMO. That said, I wouldn't recommend it for large setbacks, but it works great in boroughs/city's. Single axle, and short OAL. Yes, there are 75' full frame ladders on single axles, but there is easily a 6-10' difference in length, which can be huge in an urban environment. I personally was a big fan of the truck myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsb View Post
    Why wouldn't they go with a Tele-Squrt or a quint type arrangement? The Squrt's just seem limited in their use.
    The trick is that they are very narrow... just slightly wider than the nozzle itself ... about the 1/5 - 1/4 the width of the tele-squirt so they can actually be spotted well down an alley or placed several feet inside a 2nd or 3rd story window.

    Many of the streets in New Orleans, especially in the French Quarter and the old parts of the city that lay between the French Quarter and the Mississippi are just wider than a car. many of the streets in the Garden District are the same width of the car once cars have parked on the street. In many of these areas it's a battle just to get an engine in.

    And since they are articulated, they can be deployed in much narrower places than a tele-squirt. They also add minumum weight to the truck and have vitually no affect on tank size or the capicity of the hose
    bed. they also do not require outriggers, so they have no effect on storage space, and aagin, have no issues in operating in very narrow streets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    The name of the machine is TeleSQURT.

    Pierce builds and calls them SKY BOOM.
    Or not....

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    All of the NOFD Squrts (American LaFrance, Ward LaFrance, Seagrave, Pierce, and ALF) use 2 rear "X" style outriggers, located immediately behind the rear wheelwell. It is the same configuration as any other 54' Squrt. This does not necessarily include the Tele-Squrt devices, which NOFD has never had. The only exception to the articulating boom Squrts of NOFD was a lone FWD midmount telescopic boom from the late 1970's to late 1980's. The most recent Squrt deliveries are ALF Eagles.
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    I personally think that a Squrt on an engine is a viable option for many suburban departments that are faced with going defensive, or need to deploy big streams on garden apartment units where an interior attack isn't in the cards. A lot of truck ops are basically putting elevated master streams into service. Having a Squrt on hand increases the attack capabilities of the engine company without the need to put out funds for a full-blown quint.

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    Maybe this will clear up the confusion.
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