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    Can anyone give me or tell me where to find out how wide different cabs are like Pierce E-One Spatans. I have found a few but not many on websites. I know how to do it but do not have the trucks around to go and mesure .

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    Try thier websites...
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    Some will show it but most dont. I have googled specs and able to find some widths but not many

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    Your best bet would be to call the dealer for each brand you're looking for information on. Searching the web will get you some of them, but you'll make better use of your time by just making a few phone calls.
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    Do you know the chassi these trucks use?. You may be able to get some information by visiting the webiste of the cab/chassi manufacturer.
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    The big show up in Indy is March 24-26th for the Fire exibits. All the mfg's will be there. If you can make it there, all there to be measured. The inside dimension between the engine house and the door on each side are the critical dimensions. One popular cab has 2" less width on the officers side than the drivers side.

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    Pierce has the largest doors for fire apparatus.

    Most cabs are about 96 inches wide.

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    The only Pierce cab that's still 96" is the Arrow XT.
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    Most manufacturers cabs' are going to be right near 100" to accommodate the new emission motors.

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    I measured the old style KME and the new style and the old was 96 inch and the new is 100. This is what alot of manufacturers are doing and like Scooby said it is to accomadate the new emmisions. The engine tunnels have to be wider for more air flow. The KME I measured had an engine tunnel 7 inches wider, this equates to a 3 inch loss in the cab. I was told that an engineer at Pierce has fought to get fire trucks classified as an off road vehicle to get around the emmisions but the feds keep saying no dice. I guess we will have to get used to less room!

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    Quote Originally Posted by firesarge69 View Post
    I was told that an engineer at Pierce has fought to get fire trucks classified as an off road vehicle to get around the emmisions but the feds keep saying no dice.
    What? Pierce didn't get its way? Say it ain't so!

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    Generally, you'll see 96 or 100 inches. The big block engines will of course need 100 inch.

    I am curious why cab width is a primary concern?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Command6 View Post
    Generally, you'll see 96 or 100 inches. The big block engines will of course need 100 inch.

    I am curious why cab width is a primary concern?

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    97"door,hehe T.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firesarge69 View Post
    I was told that an engineer at Pierce has fought to get fire trucks classified as an off road vehicle to get around the emmisions but the feds keep saying no dice. I guess we will have to get used to less room!
    It's not just Pierce, it's the industry in general trying to get exempted from the emissions standards. If that would happen, it would save us tens of thousands of dollars per vehicle. I'm afraid you'll never see it though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue101 View Post
    97"door,hehe T.C.
    Precisely! My current volunteer station (new one under construction) has 1/2" of space on either side of the mirrors when we back our 96" wide HME/Grumman into it's bay.
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    Our E-One dealer said they had to make the engine house 4" wider and went from a 96" cab to a 100" cab and retained the same interior width for the chauffer and officer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxAlarm187 View Post
    It's not just Pierce, it's the industry in general trying to get exempted from the emissions standards. If that would happen, it would save us tens of thousands of dollars per vehicle. I'm afraid you'll never see it though...
    I'm afraid that wouldn't help much. Back in the late 80s there were exemptions. But no one was able to take advantage of them. The engine people couldn't cost justify setting up and producing a special run of engines just for those uses.

    Even so, very soon off highway engines will be brought under standards similar to what on highway engines are now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefengineer11 View Post
    Even so, very soon off highway engines will be brought under standards similar to what on highway engines are now.
    No doubt, just look at the Tier 1 through Tier 3 emission standards that California is making the off-highway users meet now, even enticing them with credits and the like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnee View Post
    Pierce has the largest doors for fire apparatus.

    Most cabs are about 96 inches wide.
    Thanks for the Kool Aid but i wont sip it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnee View Post
    Pierce has the largest doors for fire apparatus.
    Ever looked at a Spartan Gladiator door? Puts a Pierce door to shame.
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    fire apparatus just keep getting bigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxAlarm187 View Post
    Ever looked at a Spartan Gladiator door? Puts a Pierce door to shame.
    Agreed!! Spartan has more room inside, taller cab and bigger doors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnee View Post
    Pierce has the largest doors for fire apparatus.
    Quote Originally Posted by BoxAlarm187 View Post
    Ever looked at a Spartan Gladiator door? Puts a Pierce door to shame.
    He was probably referring to the overhead doors at the Appleton plant. They're huge!!

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