[QUOTE=FireMedic049;1284730]Sorry, but those don't count. What you seem to not be grasping is the importance of one key word in this part of the discussion. A word that I've highlighted and underlined multiple times - "secure".
The head tilt, chin lift and OPA/NPA can certainly be used to open the airway, but they don't secure it and that's what you don't seem to be grasping.
If the patient can aspirate his/her stomach contents, then the airway has not been secured.[quote]
it opens the airway. if that all you got, then that's all you got.
I'm not really sure why you can't grasp the reality that you are an E.M.T. If you want to be more than, then by all means please do so. Otherwise your job is the same as mine assess, treat, transport. You've got more tools at your disposal obviously. But the job is the same. I repeat so you can understand Assess the signs & symptoms as they present (with me so far), treat the signs & symptoms within your local protocols (write this down), transport the patient so a higher level of care can possibly find the cause of the signs & symptoms (there is a test after this)Quote:
I'm really not sure why you are having such a hard time accepting that EMT and Paramedic are not the same job. You seem to be able to grasp that there is a difference, but don't seem to be able to accept that this translates into them being different jobs. At this point, either you are extremely obtuse or you're a (insert your favorite derogatory term).
Your job as an E.M.T is:
a.)assess, treat, transport
b.)assess, treat, transport
c.)assess, treat, transport
d.) all of the above
Apparently this is about pride for you or you wouldn't be adamant about showing off the amount of skills you have instead of just accepting that "yes, although our skills are at different levels, we still are just here to aid the patient w/ what we are given."Quote:
This isn't about "pride". This isn't about going beyond the scope of practice. This isn't about any of the other BS you've spewed in this thread. This is simply black and white fact that they are different jobs. To view them in such overly broad simplistic terms (as a Fire/EMS provider), to be "the same job" is as disrespectful and ignorant as the public still referring to EMS providers as "ambulance drivers".
To not view EMS in it's simplest form is arrogant & eventually stupid.
I believe i'm about done w/ this thread being we are just going back & forth w/ no end in sight...lol So I will leave w/ this.
Even though we don't agree on this, I can only hope you stay safe & sound.