Why register? ...To Enhance Your Experience
+ Reply to Thread
Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 66
  1. #21
    Forum Member
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    NY
    Posts
    165

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue101 View Post
    How long are the hoses? If they are under 6' I BET you are STILL drawing CO into the building. My opinion is based on OUR testing only. T.C.
    i dont recall exactly, but 10 to 12 feet


  2. #22
    Forum Member Rescue101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Bridgton,Me USA
    Posts
    8,162

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ffp20 View Post
    i dont recall exactly, but 10 to 12 feet
    If you have a CO meter and a structure to train in,try monitoring it before and after using the fan. I THINK you'll be surprised at what you find even WITH the hose being used. I know we were. T.C.

  3. #23
    MembersZone Subscriber npfd801's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    Somewhere in Illinois
    Posts
    2,212

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by laddertruckgoes View Post

    Some text snipped for sanity

    Flexible ladders. Make sure you have at least 2 24's or 28's. You're 35 is going to have to be a 3 section with the short body and it'll never get used.

    Keep the clutter in the fly section to a minimum. Basic tools are nice, but roof ladders get in the way. Mount one to the base section behind a ladder sign and you'll be much better off.

    Saw box on the turntable.

    If you have low trees, Officer side control pedestal - every manufacturer will do it but you have to ask. We're learning this one the hard way.

    Don't just look at the ladders - fly them - Climb them - at all angles too!!!

    Somehow we ended up with a steel Pierce 75'. IT SUCKS! The aluminum wasn't bad at all. This is the worst feeling straight ladder I've ever climbed and I've climbed a ton of different ladders in my time. I'll take a medium duty Seagrave over this so called "Heavy Duty" Pierce stick anyday! BUT... there is a lot of good ideas you may like, and plenty of don't make the same mistake as us things as well.
    We just signed a contract on a 75' demo quint from Smeal (FEMA says a demo is used, so it worked for our grant). Your suggestions are appreciated for us, even though they weren't intended for us. Obviously, we can only change so much, but your saw box idea on the turntable is one I hadn't thought of. I may be picking your brain for more ideas, considering we'll have somewhat similar animals.
    "Share your knowledge - it's a way to achieve immortality." - Stolen from Chase Sargent's Buddy to Boss program

  4. #24
    Forum Member
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    NY
    Posts
    165

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue101 View Post
    If you have a CO meter and a structure to train in,try monitoring it before and after using the fan. I THINK you'll be surprised at what you find even WITH the hose being used. I know we were. T.C.
    we'll have to give it a try

  5. #25
    MembersZone Subscriber
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Rural Iowa
    Posts
    3,106

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue101 View Post
    Within the two depts I serve we have over 20 rigs,ONE with an inverter. And it will be the LAST with an inverter. Quite possibly, the WORST and most expensive way for an FD to make 120 power. Buy a DECENT hyd Genset, sized CORRECTLY,and be happy for the rest of Time. Or buy an inverter,in a couple years replace the burned out inverter,and again, until the end of service life. In MY experience most outfits DO NOT operate a inverter correctly which leads to early and multiple failures. Along with accelerated alternator and battery replacements. T.C.
    "Limited 120V" thru an inverter would be something like 500w.
    Last edited by neiowa; 03-22-2011 at 06:20 PM.

  6. #26
    Forum Member FWDbuff's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Pee-Ayy!
    Posts
    7,305

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by npfd801 View Post
    I may be picking your brain for more ideas, considering we'll have somewhat similar animals.
    Whatever you do DON'T listen to him for a paint color suggestion for the new rig.
    "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

  7. #27
    MembersZone Subscriber
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Posts
    28

    Default Writing Spec's for a 75' Aerial Quint

    It would be in your best interest to take a look at a Rosenbauer Smart Aerial. The aerial has many safety features that keeps the truck in a stable mode. It is the only aerial that allows you to operate the nozzle as a water tower off the short jack side of the truck. This is accomplished through Programmable Logic Control that monitores the functions of the aerial 16 times per second. The soft tuch controls allows you to raise/lower, extend/retract and rotate right or left while changing or stoping the aerial motion without excetive movement of the ladder. The ladder has auto bedding of the ladder along with an envelope control that keeps the ladder from coming in contact with the body. The manufacturer also offers a galvannized ladder coating both the inside and outside of the steel structure. The warranty for the galavannized ladder is 25 years structural and 25 years corrision and rust resistence. Right know it is the safest aerial in the industry.

  8. #28
    Forum Member Rescue101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Bridgton,Me USA
    Posts
    8,162

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by retiredchiefone View Post
    It would be in your best interest to take a look at a Rosenbauer Smart Aerial. The aerial has many safety features that keeps the truck in a stable mode. It is the only aerial that allows you to operate the nozzle as a water tower off the short jack side of the truck. This is accomplished through Programmable Logic Control that monitores the functions of the aerial 16 times per second. The soft tuch controls allows you to raise/lower, extend/retract and rotate right or left while changing or stoping the aerial motion without excetive movement of the ladder. The ladder has auto bedding of the ladder along with an envelope control that keeps the ladder from coming in contact with the body. The manufacturer also offers a galvannized ladder coating both the inside and outside of the steel structure. The warranty for the galavannized ladder is 25 years structural and 25 years corrision and rust resistence. Right know it is the safest aerial in the industry.
    Some of this is subject to conjecture. AND one's definition of SAFEST. And not that I'm opposed to Rosenbauer, we own several of them. T.C.

  9. #29
    Forum Member Rescue101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Bridgton,Me USA
    Posts
    8,162

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by neiowa View Post
    "Limited 120V" thru an inverter would be something like 500w.
    Which,IMO,is just above useless. Certainly falls short of marginally adequate for a LADDER truck. IE, a ten amp sawsall WORKING uses 1200 Watts. As I mentioned earlier, with all the electric equipment MOST FD's carry or would like to, a 8KW generator is the MINIMUM in my opinion. I have a 400W Inverter in my P/U for the sole purpose of running a laptop on scene. T.C.
    Last edited by Rescue101; 03-22-2011 at 08:09 PM.

  10. #30
    Forum Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Bryn Athyn, Pa.
    Posts
    1,604

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by npfd801 View Post
    We just signed a contract on a 75' demo quint from Smeal (FEMA says a demo is used, so it worked for our grant). Your suggestions are appreciated for us, even though they weren't intended for us. Obviously, we can only change so much, but your saw box idea on the turntable is one I hadn't thought of. I may be picking your brain for more ideas, considering we'll have somewhat similar animals.
    I'll be interested in following your progress, Joel. Is this already built, or will Smeal be building it and demo'ing it for a while? Everyone I know of who has recent Smeals appears to be happy with them.

    How about e-mailing me a current cell number. I was going to call you last week as I was passing through with 9691, but I realized I didn't have a good number for you.

  11. #31
    Forum Member Rescue101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Bridgton,Me USA
    Posts
    8,162

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by chiefengineer11 View Post
    I'll be interested in following your progress, Joel. Is this already built, or will Smeal be building it and demo'ing it for a while? Everyone I know of who has recent Smeals appears to be happy with them.

    How about e-mailing me a current cell number. I was going to call you last week as I was passing through with 9691, but I realized I didn't have a good number for you.
    Sam,ALREADY built. T.C.

  12. #32
    MembersZone Subscriber
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    246

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by npfd801 View Post
    We just signed a contract on a 75' demo quint from Smeal (FEMA says a demo is used, so it worked for our grant). Your suggestions are appreciated for us, even though they weren't intended for us. Obviously, we can only change so much, but your saw box idea on the turntable is one I hadn't thought of. I may be picking your brain for more ideas, considering we'll have somewhat similar animals.
    Glad I could help. Please feel free to ask away anything!
    FTM-PTB DTRT

    Everything I state on here is to support and aid my fellow firefighters. Everything I post is my opinion only, and in no way should be taken as an official opinion of any Company, Department, or Municipality I represent... oh and this includes Pierce Mfg, as so their legal department has advised me; since they apparently also invented the right to control "Free Speech".

  13. #33
    Forum Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    109

    Default

    You can get Sutphen to quote a 75' straight stick. Put in there you want an aluminum ladder, huck bolt fasteners, and MID-mount. This is a very good 75' quint... great compartmentation and very maneuverable.

  14. #34
    Forum Member
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    NY
    Posts
    165

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by retiredchiefone View Post
    It would be in your best interest to take a look at a Rosenbauer Smart Aerial. The aerial has many safety features that keeps the truck in a stable mode. It is the only aerial that allows you to operate the nozzle as a water tower off the short jack side of the truck. This is accomplished through Programmable Logic Control that monitores the functions of the aerial 16 times per second. The soft tuch controls allows you to raise/lower, extend/retract and rotate right or left while changing or stoping the aerial motion without excetive movement of the ladder. The ladder has auto bedding of the ladder along with an envelope control that keeps the ladder from coming in contact with the body. The manufacturer also offers a galvannized ladder coating both the inside and outside of the steel structure. The warranty for the galavannized ladder is 25 years structural and 25 years corrision and rust resistence. Right know it is the safest aerial in the industry.
    while the galvanizing is intriguing, the rest of the stuff are just toys, just sayin. on my own aerial, we can operate on the short jack side flowing water, with limitations-and that unit is 9 yrs old. with a decent guy on the turn table, excessive motion from standard controls is not an issue. While im all for modernaization, i've just had too many micro switches, software, pdm's, etc on an aerial fail when i needed it the most.

  15. #35
    Forum Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    12

    Default

    For the rosenbauer all this gagets come with a great price, about 2 years ago they come with a mets 102 foot to show us what it can do, yes it is fast and very
    soft to opparate but away to expensive $1,300,000 in canadian dollar. And in that time our dollar was a bit under the us dollar.

    in 2007 we bought a Bronto 114 for $1,ooo,ooo.

  16. #36
    MembersZone Subscriber
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Central NJ
    Posts
    1,214

    Default

    Question regarding portable ladders.

    Does anyone have a 30' 2 section ladder in the ladder tunnel of a single axle quint? Duo's is 18' 3.25" closed length. Would like to see a 30 over a 28 if possible.

  17. #37
    Forum Member Rescue101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Bridgton,Me USA
    Posts
    8,162

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MG3610 View Post
    Question regarding portable ladders.

    Does anyone have a 30' 2 section ladder in the ladder tunnel of a single axle quint? Duo's is 18' 3.25" closed length. Would like to see a 30 over a 28 if possible.
    Don't know if this helps BUT: Alco has a solid beam 30' that is 17'9" retracted and a TRUSS beam 30' at 17'8". I have no idea the depth of a single quint box so I can't help you there. T.C.

  18. #38
    MembersZone Subscriber
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Central NJ
    Posts
    1,214

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue101 View Post
    Don't know if this helps BUT: Alco has a solid beam 30' that is 17'9" retracted and a TRUSS beam 30' at 17'8". I have no idea the depth of a single quint box so I can't help you there. T.C.
    TC, no interest in Alco, with their weight substantially heavier (truss ladders heavier as well) I am solid on using Duo's channel rail aluminum ladders and have been specing/using them solely for several years now. Thanks though!

  19. #39
    Forum Member Rescue101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Bridgton,Me USA
    Posts
    8,162

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MG3610 View Post
    TC, no interest in Alco, with their weight substantially heavier (truss ladders heavier as well) I am solid on using Duo's channel rail aluminum ladders and have been specing/using them solely for several years now. Thanks though!
    Oh,I see how you are. We have both Duo and Alco,had good service from both. T.C.

  20. #40
    MembersZone Subscriber
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Central NJ
    Posts
    1,214

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue101 View Post
    Oh,I see how you are. We have both Duo and Alco,had good service from both. T.C.
    Theres a 27 LB difference, in favor of Duo on a 2 section 28' aluminum ladder. When you are doing 1 man throws, that makes life alot easier.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Never Forget!
    By wyesguy24 in forum Firefighters Forum
    Replies: 27
    Last Post: 09-11-2007, 09:25 PM
  2. ISO Company Personnel
    By FIRE549 in forum Firefighters Forum
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 05-16-2007, 06:15 PM
  3. World Of Fire Report: 01-25-05
    By PaulBrown in forum World of Fire Daily Report
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 01-26-2005, 10:24 PM
  4. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 09-16-2003, 07:53 PM
  5. World Of Fire Report: 08-13-02
    By PaulBrown in forum World of Fire Daily Report
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-19-2002, 07:43 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts