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    Quote Originally Posted by Firedawg89 View Post
    Did I forget to mention that you can only be a True Military Firefighter in one branch of the service? And that is the USAF!
    Ahhhhh another zoomie who thinks he is the second coming of christ......
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    Default Silly Zoomie, firefighting is for men.

    Quote Originally Posted by gunnyv View Post
    Air Force FF: I'm a FireDawg. I work at the base FD with the civilian firefighters. Sometimes the Air Force makes me do military stuff. If I wanted to do that I would have joined the Army. They even make us go overseas for 4 months at a time, and sometimes the cable and internet go out. How can they expect us to operate under such conditions. WOOF WOOF!
    Once worked with a USAF FF who was assigned to us TDY for "observation" or some other BS like that....I had the knob, he was riding the backup position on the engine one night, we get punched out with the local vollies......Pull up, ordered to stretch an additional line and go in service second floor of a house, fire roaring out of the windows of two rooms and the attic......His face is white as a ghost....We stretch the line to the front door, I kneel down to put my mask on and he just stands there looking at me....I say "Well, are you going to put your mask on?" He says "You want me to go in there?" I said "How else we gonna put it out?"

    He says "Can't we just squirt it from the outside?"

    Yeah. True Military FF.



    disclaimer: not all USAF guys are like this, but this guy sure didn't help the "sissy" reputation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyW View Post
    Well I want to serve my country in the military before I try to be a firefighter. I don't need affirmative action to be a firefighter, I'm smart enough and in good enough shape to get the job without any leg up.
    Ok, look, we've beat this thing to death. I am sorry for offending you, I have my opinion based on my life's experiences, I can't change them.

    I thank you for wanting to serve our country, and I wish you well. And when you get out, I wish you the best in finding a good, decent firefighting job in a community that values you and cares about you. I am glad that you feel you are good enough not to need affirmative action. You take care kid. And if you do enlist, come in here once in a while and let us know how you're doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnyv View Post
    If I claim that the Air Force is not a True Military Service, can you convince me otherwise?

    And, pray tell, explain how one who is a member of a military service, whose primary function is to fight fires, and is trained and equipped to do so, does not qualify to be a "true" military firefighter?

    Army FF: I'm a trained firefighter in the Army, but mostly I count ordnance and ride in convoys. I deploy for 12-15 months in the combat zone.

    Navy: I'm in the Navy, and we're all trained to fight fires. Some lucky guys get to sit on the deck of the carriers and watch the planes take off and land. The rest of us chip paint. My ship deploys for 6-8 months at sea.

    Marine FF: I'm a Marine. My MOS is ARFF, but we do what we need to do to ensure the pilots who support our infantry are taken care of. I deploy for 7 months in the combat zone.

    Air Force FF: I'm a FireDawg. I work at the base FD with the civilian firefighters. Sometimes the Air Force makes me do military stuff. If I wanted to do that I would have joined the Army. They even make us go overseas for 4 months at a time, and sometimes the cable and internet go out. How can they expect us to operate under such conditions. WOOF WOOF!
    wow, i am pretty sure you got that nail hit on the head. kudos

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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    Once worked with a USAF FF who was assigned to us TDY for "observation" or some other BS like that....I had the knob, he was riding the backup position on the engine one night, we get punched out with the local vollies......Pull up, ordered to stretch an additional line and go in service second floor of a house, fire roaring out of the windows of two rooms and the attic......His face is white as a ghost....We stretch the line to the front door, I kneel down to put my mask on and he just stands there looking at me....I say "Well, are you going to put your mask on?" He says "You want me to go in there?" I said "How else we gonna put it out?"

    He says "Can't we just squirt it from the outside?"

    Yeah. True Military FF.



    disclaimer: not all USAF guys are like this, but this guy sure didn't help the "sissy" reputation.
    hell, this thread has been hijacked in so many different directions so far, here's my usaf ff story:

    when i was stationed at unnamed base while i was still a senior airman, i was driving the engine company that day. my captain... or crew chief, rather, was a TSgt who had been in the fire service for 2.5 years as he was a cross-trainee from aircraft maint or AGE. anyways, we get called out for mutual aid with the city dept on a medium sized burning barn (fully engulfed, no life safety hazards). when i pull up to the icp, he jumps off the engine, full pack and mask and starts excitedly asking for assignment from the ic the two gibs do the same and i could only :facepalm: out of embarrassment. with the lack of experience we air force "true military firefighters" have, sometimes it shows to outside departments. dont get me wrong, we can kick the @$$ out of an ORI or UCI inspection, but when it comes time to respond to the "big one" (which there will only be one of at a time), we need to get our head out and start using it.

    the kicker is this, while we were responding, i noticed him putting on his mask and respectfully mentioned that we aren't first arrival (it was clear that we were being called in for manpower) and there isn't life safety so he could probably hold off with the mask. he proceeded to rip me a new poop hole when returning to the station. that was one of those times where i just kept my mouth shut and took it.

    there really isn't a point to drive home with this story, i just thought i would share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyW View Post
    Neither has FWD. The difference is I'm a 17 year old kid in the process of joining up and hes a grown *** man who's never served. And last I saw he was the once criticizing the troops not me.
    There can't be too many Anthony W's in the system right now. You might want to be careful with how you talk on the forums right now. Due to budget constraints, the USAF and US Army will need to start cutting down on enlistments real soon, and if you want to get yourself a clearance, the internet can be searched during the back ground process.

    You have not experianced life enough to have any creadability on the things you have commented on. It is ok to have your opinions, but you should keep them to yourself for a while. Personal opinio is that you are totally off the maek on your comments as well.

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    LOL....dont you people have anything else to do besides b*tch about our b*tching?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnyv View Post
    Beat me to it. Give him a break, everyone makes mistakes now and again. Besides, about the only thing that keeps the Army and Air Force somewhat military is the presence of all those prior service Marines.
    I will bite. If in the Air Force, why would you want to be military?

    (Why do I need to check out a backhoe? Because the CO told me to teach the unit how to dig foxholes!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyW View Post
    Basically what FWD is trying to say is join the Air Force or Marines because there are more white people there.
    I've got some puerto rican blood, I speak spanish, and **** you for trying to say that that makes me less of an American. I love how you get offended by a private conversation in Spanish, like its any of your business or theres something wrong with speaking spanish. I'm willing to put my life on the line for this country, and calling it "the Mexican Army" because you dont think its white enough is a slap in the face to every latino person who serves.
    Go piass up a rope.

    It is a matter of life safety to me ( along with some of the other items mentioned)

    If you are a member of MY team, then you damn well need to have english as your primary language. If you see a hazard, or I see a hazard, we better be communicating - not trying to figure out what the hell the other is talking about.

    If you are chewing out a troop in another language, then English is NOT your primary language.

    Regardless of what you may think, with your many years of life experience, not everyone is throwing down a race card. Perhaps you should not throw one down yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    Maybe they actually want to see what it's like to have to work for a living, rather than bitch that the air conditioning in the day room is broken and that the la-z-boy has a broken spring.
    You say that like it is a bad thing...LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    You say that like it is a bad thing...LOL
    No, not at all....Considering the USAF is a glorified branch of the Boy Scouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    No, not at all....Considering the USAF is a glorified branch of the Boy Scouts.
    Watch those Boy Scouts, some of them will kick!

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    Hay what is wrong with popcorn sellling boys¿¿

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    There's a DOD report out there that shows what branch of service most Federal Civilian Firefighters served in, any guesses ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firedawg89 View Post
    There's a DOD report out there that shows what branch of service most Federal Civilian Firefighters served in, any guesses ?
    Dude, seriously? What the fluck is your point? I bet you wouldn't know the business end of a handline if someone shoved it up your azz. USAF "Firedawgs" are not the second coming of christ. Get over yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firedawg89 View Post
    There's a DOD report out there that shows what branch of service most Federal Civilian Firefighters served in, any guesses ?
    Coast Guard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firedawg89 View Post
    There's a DOD report out there that shows what branch of service most Federal Civilian Firefighters served in, any guesses ?
    There is also another report on where most USAF Enlisted Firefighters are recruited from. Care to guess where from?

    A. Band Camp
    B. Chess Club
    C. Math Explorers
    D. Girl Scouts
    E. All of the above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    There is also another report on where most USAF Enlisted Firefighters are recruited from. Care to guess where from?

    A. Band Camp
    B. Chess Club
    C. Math Explorers
    D. Girl Scouts
    E. All of the above.
    B.

    I was in Chess Club. The ladies loved me

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    Really.... The Air Force wants your brains, and they will fly you wherever you need to go. The Marines want your brawn and fighting skill. The Navy wants people who are kind of smart, but can chip paint. They will give you a cruise wherever you want to go. The Army wants people who will be cannon fodder.

    Every branch has their place, and we need each one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShredddinCali View Post
    B.

    I was in Chess Club. The ladies loved me
    "and this one time, at Air Force boot camp, we......."
    "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    "and this one time, at Air Force boot camp, we......."
    ...trained to be warriors!

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