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    I am currently a Active Duty 74D in the Army. I served in the Marines as 7051 from 99-03. When I came back in the military the recruiter told me that ARFF is not for active duty but i have made inquiries and found out that it is possible for active duty but it has limited positions. I already have my certs from school when i went in 00. How hard will it be for me to move back over? I signed a 3 yr contract and from what I understand you need 2 yrs left to re enlist or extend or in my case "reclass". So I am thinking I can talk to retention this September cause I signed back up in September of 2010. I am hoping that already having the needed certs will be a plus for me. I also have 2 active duty friends I worked with at the school house now and one civilian that is an instructor that I served with in the Marines too. I am trying to contact anyone and everyone to help me get back in ARFF.


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    There are indeed still a few spots, although they are fading fast.

    The few army guys we have left here are all getting out because they don't get to be fire fighters. The army doesn't take care of thier guys very well. I've got two e-6's that are just starting to work on their 1's. No good in the DOD world.

    My advice, go AF.

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    12m is closed. Kinda upsets me since I have the certs and wanna get back in that mos. There has to be some loophole.

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    UPDATE: Appears no one reads this; maybe i just wanna think out loud.

    I am active army; mos 74D CBRN. I turned in my fire certs from goodfellow along with my DD214 from the Corps to retention and he is gonna call proponency and see if i can get 12M as my either Primary or Secondary MOS. I hope this goes my way!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by peterbound View Post
    My advice, go AF.

    What he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bocaccio13 View Post
    12m is closed. Kinda upsets me since I have the certs and wanna get back in that mos. There has to be some loophole.
    The reason it is closed is because they are doing away with the MOS. I don't think there is one active duty 12M in the CONUS (all Army facilities as far as I know are Civilian DOD) and outside the CONUS they are using either foreign nationals and/or contractors for fire protection.

    The last 12M I spoke to said he hadn't seen a firetruck in a month, but was very well familiar with the armored vehicles he was riding in providing escort duty.

    And I gotta ask- why on God's green earth would you go from the USMC to the Army?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    The reason it is closed is because they are doing away with the MOS. I don't think there is one active duty 12M in the CONUS (all Army facilities as far as I know are Civilian DOD) and outside the CONUS they are using either foreign nationals and/or contractors for fire protection.

    The last 12M I spoke to said he hadn't seen a firetruck in a month, but was very well familiar with the armored vehicles he was riding in providing escort duty.

    And I gotta ask- why on God's green earth would you go from the USMC to the Army?
    I think they have some DoD civilians overseas for Army bases too. I saw a GS-7 announced on USAJOBS a couple of weeks ago for a base in Italy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    The reason it is closed is because they are doing away with the MOS. I don't think there is one active duty 12M in the CONUS (all Army facilities as far as I know are Civilian DOD) and outside the CONUS they are using either foreign nationals and/or contractors for fire protection.

    The last 12M I spoke to said he hadn't seen a firetruck in a month, but was very well familiar with the armored vehicles he was riding in providing escort duty.

    And I gotta ask- why on God's green earth would you go from the USMC to the Army?
    We have about 12 active duty guys here that are assigned to the FD. There are still around 700 or so FF's in the Army, to hear them tell it. They get to wear civvie uniforms when they report to work, so that's pretty cool for them, and we are CONUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    And I gotta ask- why on God's green earth would you go from the USMC to the Army?
    Beat me to it. Give him a break, everyone makes mistakes now and again. Besides, about the only thing that keeps the Army and Air Force somewhat military is the presence of all those prior service Marines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnyv View Post
    Beat me to it. Give him a break, everyone makes mistakes now and again. Besides, about the only thing that keeps the Army and Air Force somewhat military is the presence of all those prior service Marines.
    Having worked as a FF on a major Army installation for 6 years, I question if it's the United States Army or the Mexican Army, US Detachment.
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    After seeing this, I hope you're exaggerating:

    Mexican Special Forces

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsUUTm96NJw

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnyv View Post
    After seeing this, I hope you're exaggerating:

    Mexican Special Forces

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsUUTm96NJw
    One time I was doing a BI in a barracks, a SSGT was yelling at a couple of PFC's for something or another. Normally I would not have been concerned or took notice, except for one problem, he was doing it in spanish. Kinda had a problem with that, especially given he was wearing the Stars and Stripes.

    Another time, our Fire Marshal got involved in the Court Marshal of a higher-end Sgt (cant remember exactly, maybe an SFC) who was using PW's to "encourage" his guys out of their racks in the morning, much to the Fire Department's disliking. They brought him up on court martial after the third time he got caught......Part of his defense was that he "did not understand the Fire Marshal, who should have explained it in Spanish."

    yeah that kinda irritated me too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    The reason it is closed is because they are doing away with the MOS. I don't think there is one active duty 12M in the CONUS (all Army facilities as far as I know are Civilian DOD) and outside the CONUS they are using either foreign nationals and/or contractors for fire protection.

    The last 12M I spoke to said he hadn't seen a firetruck in a month, but was very well familiar with the armored vehicles he was riding in providing escort duty.

    And I gotta ask- why on God's green earth would you go from the USMC to the Army?
    The Marines wasn't taking any prior service when i came back in. Probably something to do with the economy and a lotta ppl coming into the military at that time.

    Anyways I just pray at night that I get it. I have been talking with a instructor at the schoolhouse (prior marine now army e7). And With his assistance i talked to my batttallion retention and sent off my certs from school and discharge papers form the marines and he said either one of two things will happen if they say they'll accept me.

    I'll get in with no training since i've already been to the school OR i'll get in and have to goto mos school all over again.

    The guy I talk to at the school said I should hope I get Fort Rucker cause that's the only real place I'll get to do my job at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bocaccio13 View Post
    The guy I talk to at the school said I should hope I get Fort Rucker cause that's the only real place I'll get to do my job at.
    You should have went USAF. Good Luck.
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    Why would someone want to be a Military Firefighter in any other branch other then the USAF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firedawg89 View Post
    Why would someone want to be a Military Firefighter in any other branch other then the USAF?
    Maybe they actually want to see what it's like to have to work for a living, rather than bitch that the air conditioning in the day room is broken and that the la-z-boy has a broken spring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    Maybe they actually want to see what it's like to have to work for a living, rather than bitch that the air conditioning in the day room is broken and that the la-z-boy has a broken spring.
    You are overstepping the lines!

    Broken springs on la-z-boys are both dangerous and uncomfortable.

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    ****: Through the Eyes of the Military

    An Army grunt stands in the rain with a 35-pound pack on his back, 15-lb. weapon in his hand, having marched 12 miles, and says, "This is ****."

    An Army Airborne Ranger stands in the rain with a 45-pound pack on his back, weapon in hand, after having jumped from a plane and jogged 18 miles, says with a smile, "This is good ****."

    A Marine lies in the mud, 55-pound pack on his back, weapon in hand, after swimming 10 miles to shore, crawling through a swamp, and running 25 miles at night past enemy positions, says with a grin, "This is really great ****."

    A Navy Seal, up to his nose in the stinking, bug-infested mud of a swamp with a 65-pound pack on his back and weapons in both hands after jumping from an aircraft at high altitude into the ocean, swimming 12 miles to shore, killing several alligators to enter the swamp, then crawling 30 miles through the brush to assault an enemy camp, says, "I love this ****."

    An Air Force NCO sits in an easy chair in an air-conditioned, carpeted office in front of his computer and says, "My e-mail is out? What kind of **** is this?"
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    Hay hay

    If the computer don't work cannot fly the drone 10000 miles away!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    ****: Through the Eyes of the Military

    An Army grunt stands in the rain with a 35-pound pack on his back, 15-lb. weapon in his hand, having marched 12 miles, and says, "This is ****."

    An Army Airborne Ranger stands in the rain with a 45-pound pack on his back, weapon in hand, after having jumped from a plane and jogged 18 miles, says with a smile, "This is good ****."

    A Marine lies in the mud, 55-pound pack on his back, weapon in hand, after swimming 10 miles to shore, crawling through a swamp, and running 25 miles at night past enemy positions, says with a grin, "This is really great ****."

    A Navy Seal, up to his nose in the stinking, bug-infested mud of a swamp with a 65-pound pack on his back and weapons in both hands after jumping from an aircraft at high altitude into the ocean, swimming 12 miles to shore, killing several alligators to enter the swamp, then crawling 30 miles through the brush to assault an enemy camp, says, "I love this ****."

    An Air Force NCO sits in an easy chair in an air-conditioned, carpeted office in front of his computer and says, "My e-mail is out? What kind of **** is this?"
    Email is important to keep up tabs when the servers are going to be down for maintenance or when the luncheon time will be.

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