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    Default Other new things @ fdic 2011

    Okay Show us what else was new at FDIC. I had to re-certify my NYS Paramedic so I couldn't go. Pictures ladies and gentlemen we want pictures.
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    None of these are my pictures, but here are some good shots and some additional info:

    http://chicagoareafire.com/blog/2011.../#comment-1595

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrtrks View Post
    Okay Show us what else was new at FDIC. I had to re-certify my NYS Paramedic so I couldn't go. Pictures ladies and gentlemen we want pictures.


    Come over to www.firepics.net and join up and you'll get to see what was at the FDIC and more.
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    Things I liked were:
    1.) Newly revised compartmentation on the Sutphen SPH 100... it now has all kinds of room in its compartments.
    2.) The Sutphen Scene View pumper which is a top mount/side mount pump operation. Seems good for smaller, voluteer fire departments.
    3.) Sensible Products had a great new way to mount equipment in compartments by using a module design. I think they called it T mounts.
    4.) FRC had some neat new lighting options. Lots of LED choices from them now.
    5.) Headlights - I see that many manufacturers went away from the old sealed beam lights and now have a more automotive looking, clear glass headlight. This had a seperate bulb that you can swap out just like a car.
    6.) I believe it was Rosenbauer, but they had an interesting step/ladder set up that came out of the side of the truck. The only use I saw for it was re-packing hose.
    7.) Manufacturer unknown, but I saw a neat tool storage shelf that swung out of the compartment. Different than a pull out tray, but kind of like a lazy susan. I have no idea what weight it held, but nice concept.
    8.) ROM has some neat pull out trays that seem to work much easier than the Slidemaster units.
    9.) I had no idea how bad the door seal was on Spartan cabs. I have always heard of water leak issues on their doors, and now I saw why.
    10.) Pierce CF - I did not care for the new interior. Seemed like they fixed the space issue in the front by creating a space issue in the back for the crew. This may work for some departments though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATFDFF View Post
    None of these are my pictures, but here are some good shots and some additional info:

    http://chicagoareafire.com/blog/2011.../#comment-1595
    Intersting one caption noted four FDNY apparatus including a 4 door Ford Chassis ambulance? I thought the four doors buses were going to be Dodges?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 93Cobra View Post
    Things I liked were:
    1.) Newly revised compartmentation on the Sutphen SPH 100... it now has all kinds of room in its compartments.
    2.) The Sutphen Scene View pumper which is a top mount/side mount pump operation. Seems good for smaller, voluteer fire departments.
    3.) Sensible Products had a great new way to mount equipment in compartments by using a module design. I think they called it T mounts.
    4.) FRC had some neat new lighting options. Lots of LED choices from them now.
    5.) Headlights - I see that many manufacturers went away from the old sealed beam lights and now have a more automotive looking, clear glass headlight. This had a seperate bulb that you can swap out just like a car.
    6.) I believe it was Rosenbauer, but they had an interesting step/ladder set up that came out of the side of the truck. The only use I saw for it was re-packing hose.
    7.) Manufacturer unknown, but I saw a neat tool storage shelf that swung out of the compartment. Different than a pull out tray, but kind of like a lazy susan. I have no idea what weight it held, but nice concept.
    8.) ROM has some neat pull out trays that seem to work much easier than the Slidemaster units.
    9.) I had no idea how bad the door seal was on Spartan cabs. I have always heard of water leak issues on their doors, and now I saw why.
    10.) Pierce CF - I did not care for the new interior. Seemed like they fixed the space issue in the front by creating a space issue in the back for the crew. This may work for some departments though.
    never thought spartan had a door seal issue. please elaborate

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFDACM02 View Post
    Intersting one caption noted four FDNY apparatus including a 4 door Ford Chassis ambulance? I thought the four doors buses were going to be Dodges?
    It is a Dodge. Photo by me:



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    Quote Originally Posted by 93Cobra View Post
    Things I liked were:
    4.) FRC had some neat new lighting options. Lots of LED choices from them now.
    They've come out with new surface mount (1.25" deep) scene lights at 15k lumens, and a 2.5" front brow light using a universal mount that has 20k lumens (far more than the Whelen Pioneer Plus).

    Here are the 15k lumen models mounted to a Will-Burt light tower.



    6.) I believe it was Rosenbauer, but they had an interesting step/ladder set up that came out of the side of the truck. The only use I saw for it was re-packing hose.



    8.) ROM has some neat pull out trays that seem to work much easier than the Slidemaster units.
    Both ROM and On Scene Solutions pull out trays blow SlideMaster out of the water. I'd happily use either one.

    9.) I had no idea how bad the door seal was on Spartan cabs. I have always heard of water leak issues on their doors, and now I saw why.
    Never heard a complaint about Spartan door seals??

    10.) Pierce CF - I did not care for the new interior. Seemed like they fixed the space issue in the front by creating a space issue in the back for the crew. This may work for some departments though.
    I predict you'll see a lot of departments that feel like the minor space issue in the rear is far offset by the space gained in the front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ffp20 View Post
    never thought spartan had a door seal issue. please elaborate
    The department by me has a new Smeal with a Spartan cab that has water leak issues around the doors. I never looked at it until the show and saw what they use for sealing around the doors. I would rather that the cab door had a more positive sealing surface.
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    Wow!!! ALF is still in the game and must be making some money to have a spot in the Lucas Stadium!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TruckGuy View Post
    Wow!!! ALF is still in the game and must be making some money to have a spot in the Lucas Stadium!
    Must not have signed the Do Not Resuscitate form.

    Apparently Lynn still needs the write-offs.

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    Nice list Cobra, thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by 93Cobra View Post
    2.) The Sutphen Scene View pumper which is a top mount/side mount pump operation. Seems good for smaller, voluteer fire departments.
    Anyone know were I can see this? Very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 93Cobra View Post
    9.) I had no idea how bad the door seal was on Spartan cabs. I have always heard of water leak issues on their doors, and now I saw why.
    Quote Originally Posted by 93Cobra View Post
    The department by me has a new Smeal with a Spartan cab that has water leak issues around the doors. I never looked at it until the show and saw what they use for sealing around the doors. I would rather that the cab door had a more positive sealing surface.
    Never seen or heard of any issues with the door seals leaking water. Not just on my 13, but others around me that have them.

    And what "exactly" did you see that they used to seal the doors that you didn't like???

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIREMECH1 View Post
    Never seen or heard of any issues with the door seals leaking water. Not just on my 13, but others around me that have them.

    And what "exactly" did you see that they used to seal the doors that you didn't like???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lump532 View Post
    Nice list Cobra, thanks!



    Anyone know were I can see this? Very interesting.
    Here is a copy of the spec sheet I picked up for this truck.



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    Quote Originally Posted by FIREMECH1 View Post
    Never seen or heard of any issues with the door seals leaking water. Not just on my 13, but others around me that have them.

    And what "exactly" did you see that they used to seal the doors that you didn't like???

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    The way the seal was set down inside the jamb creates problems for the door to seal to it. If the door is not adjusted dead on (latch to Nader pin), it creates a gap between the door and the seal and allows water into the cab. Other manufacturers have designs where this is much more forgiving. So far, the adjustments made on the Smeal truck by me have not fixed the issue - 1.5 yrs in service and still leaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lump532 View Post
    Anyone know were I can see this? Very interesting.
    My photos of it...





    I see the merits of the design, however, they only deliver a handful of these per year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 93Cobra View Post
    The way the seal was set down inside the jamb creates problems for the door to seal to it. If the door is not adjusted dead on (latch to Nader pin), it creates a gap between the door and the seal and allows water into the cab. Other manufacturers have designs where this is much more forgiving. So far, the adjustments made on the Smeal truck by me have not fixed the issue - 1.5 yrs in service and still leaks.
    Maybe 1.5 yrs ago you should have contacted the mfr to get direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxAlarm187 View Post
    My photos of it...





    I see the merits of the design, however, they only deliver a handful of these per year.
    A decent pump operator would have to climb up and down alot during a fire, ya know, to make/break connections, get equip out, help flake out hose, change bottles, etc. The climbing doesnt look firefighter freindly.

    That style first appeared several years ago by Precision fire apparatus, who incidentaly, used supthen chassis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ffp20 View Post
    That style first appeared several years ago by Precision fire apparatus, who incidentaly, used supthen chassis.
    Yes, Sutphen will sell their chassis to select other manufacturers, including Precision, Rescue 1, and SVI.
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