04-06-2011, 11:38 PM #1
When developing your pre-plans, what are things all of you look for? We're currently re-drawing our commercial structures on 2-d modeling via AutoCad. I also work for a consulting firm, and we are going to begin developing pre-planning modeling as a contractor.
Just want to see if there's any unique ideas out there, or different strategies for doing so.
04-06-2011, 11:50 PM #2
I've always been slightly against total pre-planning due to it going right out the window 80% of the time as every call is different. And everything can change in less then a minute.
04-07-2011, 12:18 AM #3
04-07-2011, 01:33 AM #4
04-07-2011, 10:49 AM #5
The intent of our pre-plans is not to develop operational schemes, but provide a structure to establish operations. Our first due consists of a division II college, 5 schools, several nursing homes and more.
The basics we currently have are 2-d floor plans per story, utilities (gas, electric, water, etc) special hazards (haz-mat, etc), hydrant locations, ingress/egress, and dimensions.
Just looking to see if anyone has anything that we may possibly over look
04-08-2011, 12:54 PM #6
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One thing you may consider is some minimum flow rates of water for some fire scenarios. This is more important for areas that are of a much higher fuel (BTU) load than you might expect based on dimesions but does not take much effort to put down. Its just one more bit of information the IC or first arriving officers can use.
Another thing we add is whether you have to do any 'non-standard' hose lays. 99% of our fires are handled with a 1 3/4" 200' preconnects. We do have a few structures where we would have to stretch longer attack lines to reach all areas. Its better to think this through before the fire than at the fire when you first crew runs out of hose before getting to the fire.
04-08-2011, 01:16 PM #7
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Magnetic locking doors
Fire suppression systems besides sprinklers
With nursing homes are they going to get them out or move to another wing
Make it usable on almost any computer
04-08-2011, 05:21 PM #8
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My preplan checklist:
Basic floor plan, room numbers, stairwell locations, standpipe locations
Doors/windows that are barred or not forceable.
Do not enter areas.
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04-11-2011, 08:42 PM #9
All great info guys...
The magnetic doors is a definite plus and I don't believe is one we have on our current plans...excellent.
JT, what do you consider a "do not enter area"?
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