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    i dont know what his department issues him, but maybe a gift card to something like the fire store, or just give him the money to buy some tools to stuff his pockets with, that stuff can add up all at once.

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    Husband graduates tomorrow, yay! He has his unit day assignment (Unit 1, starts right away on Monday), and will hopefully have his station assignment today or tomorrow.

    He has been forwarned by his instructors that as a "New Boy," there will be certain expectations.... like keeping the station freezer stocked with ice cream until he's told to stop bringing it in. And I quote "And not the cheap sh*t either." I laughed and laughed! So I'll be stocking up on good ice cream when I see it on sale (thank goodness for chest freezers in the garage!), and he'll be taking a few gallons in with him first thing on Monday. (It's a shame they want ice cream, and not something like cookies, breads and pies, because I'm a killer baker.) However, he plans on stopping by his house tomorrow after graduation and finding out if there's anything else he should bring.

    Also, word has gotten out that hubby was an academically trained chef, so it looks like he'll be cooking a bit.

    So.... what were all of you expected to do when you first started? Any funny stories?
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    I collect royalties on the phrase "WAX ON - WAX OFF" from 1972, long before the movie.

    Advise him we have an opening for a guy with that kind of tool box. Not so much for a firefighter but just the housecleaning and cooking duties. My crews cannot cook worth a crap and I am tired of their complaining.

    I can cut the pay and hire a chef and no one would say a word...

    I wish your 'noob' much success... sound like you are squarley in his corner and that makes his job alot easier. Bravo for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishLake View Post
    Husband graduates tomorrow, yay! He has his unit day assignment (Unit 1, starts right away on Monday), and will hopefully have his station assignment today or tomorrow.

    He has been forwarned by his instructors that as a "New Boy," there will be certain expectations.... like keeping the station freezer stocked with ice cream until he's told to stop bringing it in. And I quote "And not the cheap sh*t either."
    Personally, I feel that this is a little out of line. Certainly when we were all probys, we were expected to bring someting in on our first day- ice cream, pastries, bagels, whatever...and not cheap stuff......the first day...But to be told to "keep the freezer stocked until told not to?" I would have a problem with that.

    And yes, he should make an attempt to visit his Company on the same shift that he will be working (before his start date) to meet with his company officer and to find out if there are any expectations for him. This should be done in uniform.

    And if you are a killer baker, no one said you COULD NOT send in goodies with him.

    As for what to do the first day:
    -Eyes/Ears open, mouth shut unless to ask an intellegent question
    -Last to sit down to dinner, first in the sink for the dishes.
    -Never sit around watching TV your first year unless it's a holiday or specifically invited by the crew or officer. There is always something dirty in a fire station or on the trucks. Clean something at all times. When you are not cleaning something, study something such as maps of your local, your SOP's, memorandums, company orders, training manuals, etc. When you are not studying something, clean something. When you are not cleaning something, study something. You get the idea.
    -Arrive one hour early which is on time. Arriving on time is late.
    -Never ever ever let the coffee maker go empty between the hours of 5am to 10 or 11:00am. (he will learn the nuances of when everyone wants coffee as he gets some time on.....)
    -Always be the first to volunteer for special duty, details, temporary transfers, etc.
    -Turn your cell phone OFF the first few weeks. And Wifey never ever calls the station unless the house is on fire or aliens are landing in the backyard for the first few months.

    That Steak and BJ better have been delivered by now by the way.
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    We'll see what they say about the ice cream. I wonder if it wasn't just one of the Lt's messing with them all (his entire class was told this). Thankfully tomorrow is a Unit 1 day, so he can get out to his station (which he now knows... and he's excited, it's a very exciting area to be in the Columbus area 9 months out of the year) and meet some of the men/women before reporting on Monday.

    I plan on winning them over with my pies and pumpkins rolls. They're gonna get it whether they like it or not! I'll play it safe and make sure he has ice cream and donuts for the first day though.

    He's already started studying his modules (?). He has a continuing education class in October already, so he'll be studying.

    He has quite a few buddies already working for CDF who've essentially told him the same thing, FWDbuff. They said between the time they show up in the morning until just after dinner, they are expected to be "at work" when they are not on a run. Evenings and night time are free time though.

    What's the thought of working out while at the house? He mentioned running on the treadmill in the evenings at the station house. I wonder if maybe he shouldn't right away though. He doesn't drink coffee, so that will be a difficult one for him to keep up on, just because it's not a thought in his mind.

    I already have the department emergency "family" phone number. Nope, I won't be talking to him at all while he's on, and I'm fine with that.

    Steak and BJ night is this Saturday night, when the in-laws can take the kids, we can go to grad parties and out to dinner. I'm in my 4th month of pregnancy with #3... done with the morning sickness, but not to the point where I am giant and ready to pop... ya'll with kids know what that means!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishLake View Post
    What's the thought of working out while at the house? He mentioned running on the treadmill in the evenings at the station house. I wonder if maybe he shouldn't right away though.
    Many departments mandate a workout period during the 8 hour "work" day of a 24 hour shift. If they do not, he can address a proper workout time with the boss. I am certain they would not frown on him working out.

    When he goes to meet the boss tomorrow, he should be knocking with his elbows, because his hands should be full of cakes, pies and ice cream. First impressions last.
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    When you are first arrive to a crew, you are considered an outsider. The people already in the station are a group and it may be awhile before they warm up to you and "accept" you.

    The people already in the "group" have spent alot of time together training, working and other experiences together. They are already bonded together.

    Since you are a newbie and an outsider, you need to work yourself into the group. It will take time to do so. Be quiet and do as you are told. As you train and work together, you will bond with the others. Some groups are more accepting than others.

    The old dogs in the group have been through alot and you need to learn from them. Try to have them mentor you. Their experience is priceless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire117 View Post
    when you are first arrive to a crew, you are considered an outsider. The people already in the station are a group and it may be awhile before they warm up to you and "accept" you.

    The people already in the "group" have spent alot of time together training, working and other experiences together. They are already bonded together.

    Since you are a newbie and an outsider, you need to work yourself into the group. It will take time to do so. Be quiet and do as you are told. As you train and work together, you will bond with the others. Some groups are more accepting than others.

    The old dogs in the group have been through alot and you need to learn from them. Try to have them mentor you. Their experience is priceless.
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    Good ice cream never goes on sale. Go to BR's and order a cut gallon. Peanut butter and chocolate if you please. Should be a few tours before that runs out, unless the house is full of sweat hogs. I wouldn't worry about keeping any freezers full. I would worry about being the last one to the table, and the first one to the sink. Fight for those dishes, even if he breaks one, that's one that a senior man won't be washing.
    Best of luck to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishLake View Post
    Steak and BJ night is this Saturday night, when the in-laws can take the kids, we can go to grad parties and out to dinner. I'm in my 4th month of pregnancy with #3... done with the morning sickness, but not to the point where I am giant and ready to pop... ya'll with kids know what that means!
    If he doesn't fit in, she definitely will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
    Good ice cream never goes on sale. Go to BR's and order a cut gallon. Peanut butter and chocolate if you please. Should be a few tours before that runs out, unless the house is full of sweat hogs. I wouldn't worry about keeping any freezers full. I would worry about being the last one to the table, and the first one to the sink. Fight for those dishes, even if he breaks one, that's one that a senior man won't be washing.
    Best of luck to him.
    BR? We don't have those around here. Trust me, the good ice cream goes on sale, and if you hunt down coupons, even better.

    Thanks for the advice guys!

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    Bringing ice cream, cakes, cookies and other goodies are OK, but can be over done. Usually several weeks after a new member joins a company, the goodies should wane. Not saying that on special occasions, i.e., birthday, anniversary on the job, first run, first working job, etc, should be a time for ice cream and cake. remember it is the First Time, not forever. If you don't stop bringing the members will fatten up over the rookies generous tokens.


    Hubby or any new member should go to the fire house, and meet the members. They should strive to go on the day that the shift is working in which they will be assigned. Sit down with the Officer and listen, listen, to what h or she has to say. Then usually the new member will meet the other members of the company. Some will be receptive and other will not be distance but will hold their judgment and welcome, until the new member has been there a while and fit in.


    Remember the new member is a stranger. They are coming into a company that works well without the new guy. He has to merge into this operation. There is a lot on his plate for a year to learn and absorbed.


    On his duty days, he should arrive at the time which the Officer says to report. Usually the relief members who is going off, would like to get away as soon as they can, maybe they have to work on an off duty job. I always relieved no later than 6:30 AM so my relief go get to his off duty job.


    With that being said, the new member should arrive ready to go to work an hour before the shift start. Put your gear at the apparatus where you are going to ride. Come into the kitchen area and get a cup of coffee, if you don't drink the "Mothers Milk Beverage", learn to.
    Ask where can I sit. Don't engage into the ongoing conversations unless asked a question. Keep your ears, eyes open and your mouth close unless someone ask you a question.


    As others have said do the dishes and other not so good work, since you are the rookie, don't think you will be given special privileges .


    He will need to continue his study and pass the final probation, usually a year after graduation for the recruit school. This has to been accomplished as he can be terminated for any reason during the probation period and if he should fail his final probation exam.
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    Thanks for the advice everyone! Thankfully for him, he's a neat freak and a car fanatic, so cleaning up and washing/waxing trucks are right up his alley. He knows not to leave his personal effects laying around, lest they be effed with.

    His graduation was yesterday, and it was awesome. Simply amazing. The Columbus Police and Fire Pipe and Drum corps was there, they brought tears to my eyes. I have never been more proud. This was something we never thought would happen for him. He was 29 when he took the civil service test, he's 34 now. I wrote the whole thing off 2 years ago, and was plesently surprised when they started calling him about the next steps in the screening/application process. He was miserable in his previous jobs. He's found something that is his calling, and so far, he's loved it all (the good, the bad and the ugly). I also did not expect there to be so many people there. There were so many Class A uni's, I couldn't ID them all. Where my kids and I sat though, I had a Charlotte NC FF in front of me, a Detroit FF behind me, and tons of military service members (including hub's best friend who is Coast Guard). Afterwards, we made our way to hubs new station. He'll be there for 24 weeks. He was told not to stay long unless invited to do so. No more than 15 minutes. I kept my butt in the car until the ladder truck came back in from a run and the guy at the tiller waved at me to come in to the building. It was pouring rain, and hub was already on his way back to the car though. We then went to his class grad party at the union hall, and the comraderie that I witnessed was unexplainable. 51 started in his class, 45 graduated (1 was called to active military duty, 3 had injuries that put them into later new recruit classes, 1 straight up quit, and 1 straight up failed out).

    We are looking forward to this journey!

    Oh, and hub got a St Florians medal from his best friend, and I gave him a Gerber knife.

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    Way to go for him, you, and the family!!!!


    Enjoy a little less hectic life, and alot more time together

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    This sounds like I might know who this person is, but no fresh baked goods today. Congrats and let your "new boy" husband take an nap tomorrow. He might need it. It's going to take some time for him to adjust to working 24's. Is he ***. to Batt. 3. Did he get to the Lake today?

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    Be patient with the baked goods, he told me to wait until he was done bringing ice cream. Fall will be here soon, and I enjoy making pumpkin rolls and cookies.... if you're at the same house, you'll get some.

    Well I was going to send you a PM, but I can't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishLake View Post
    Be patient with the baked goods, he told me to wait until he was done bringing ice cream. Fall will be here soon, and I enjoy making pumpkin rolls and cookies.... if you're at the same house, you'll get some.

    Well I was going to send you a PM, but I can't.
    I'll take some pumpkin cheese cake please. For all the free advice. Since I wont get steak and a BJ.
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