Thread: Black Helmet

  1. #1
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    8

    Question Black Helmet

    My cousin has been a volunteer in NY for a while, and he said that he just got his black helmet. What does that mean exactly?

  2. #2
    Forum Member
    InstructorJV87's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Eastern Iowa
    Posts
    88

    Default

    depends on his dept what a black color symbolizes... could be a capt or luet. just depends... or something completely different from all that
    Whos says Fire Trucks cant be YELLOW!

  3. #3
    Forum Member
    Picc.93Truck's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Old Forge, PA
    Posts
    207

    Default

    It could mean he is out of his probie period as well. Why don't you call him up and ask?
    I know of some departments that give you yellow salad bow's as probie's and Jr's, Then you get a black helmet once you become a full firefighter.

  4. #4
    MembersZone Subscriber
    BULL321's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Western, NC
    Posts
    3,428

    Default

    Maybe this is the one he was talking about?
    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Stay Safe
    Bull


    “Guys if you get hurt, we’ll help you. If you get sick we’ll treat you. If you want to bitch and moan, then all I can tell you is to flick the sand out of your slit, suck it up or get the hell out!”
    - Capt. Marc Cox CFD

    Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result.
    -WINSTON CHURCHILL

  5. #5
    105
    105 is offline
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    198

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BULL321 View Post
    Maybe this is the one he was talking about?
    Or perhaps this. I hear retro is in these days.




    honestly - ask him. Different departments have different meanings attached to different colours - there isn't one standard across the board.

  6. #6
    Forum Member
    johnny46's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Posts
    2,094

    Default

    Well, it means you have to love him and accept him because he is family. There will be a period of adjustment, but remember--he is still the same person as before.
    Logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead.

  7. #7
    MembersZone Subscriber
    tajm611's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    2,071

    Default

    Maybe he got his psudeo-tapout/affliction ******bag shirt in.
    ‎"I was always taught..." Four words impacting fire service education in the most negative of ways. -Bill Carey

  8. #8
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    224

    Default

    In my NY volly dept, black helmets are issued to firefughters. Cairns 1010's or the salad bowls (550 I think). Your choice. A few of the older members still have cows, but most opted for the polycarbonate ones when we switched over.

    Orange scotchlite reflectors mean exterior only.

    Yellow/green is for interior qualified.

    Line officers get red helmets, and chiefs get white ones.

    Last I checked, explorers got yellow with blue reflective stickers.

    I don't recall what probies get... In my day they had green helmets
    (and got called greenies or green weenies if they really wanted to bust your chops. )

  9. #9
    Forum Member
    FiremanLyman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Texas
    Posts
    948

    Default

    Why did you not ask him but asked an internet forum?
    ~Drew
    Firefighter/EMT/Technical Rescue
    USAR TF Rescue Specialist

  10. #10
    Forum Member
    snowball's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    Just North of South Central
    Posts
    2,740

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by FiremanLyman View Post
    Why did you not ask him but asked an internet forum?
    Because he didn't want to look dumb in front of a bunch of people.
    IAFF

  11. #11
    Forum Member
    DeputyChiefGonzo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2000
    Location
    Somewhere between genius and insanity!
    Posts
    13,584

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
    Because he didn't want to look dumb in front of a bunch of people.
    Now he looks dumb in front of literally millions of people!
    ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
    Lt. Ray McCormack, FDNY

  12. #12
    Forum Member
    IronValor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Richmond, Kentucky
    Posts
    210

    Default

    All helmets regardless of color turn black if you where em long enough
    Do not let the ghosts of our fallen brothers gaze upon you and ask " What have you done to my profession?" FTB DTRT EGH

  13. #13
    MembersZone Subscriber
    BULL321's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Western, NC
    Posts
    3,428

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by IronValor View Post
    All helmets regardless of color turn black if you where em long enough
    How do you WHERE a helmet?
    Stay Safe
    Bull


    “Guys if you get hurt, we’ll help you. If you get sick we’ll treat you. If you want to bitch and moan, then all I can tell you is to flick the sand out of your slit, suck it up or get the hell out!”
    - Capt. Marc Cox CFD

    Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result.
    -WINSTON CHURCHILL

  14. #14
    MembersZone Subscriber
    dmleblanc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Location
    Not the end of the earth but I can see it from here...
    Posts
    2,318

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Just Wondering View Post
    My cousin has been a volunteer in NY for a while, and he said that he just got his black helmet. What does that mean exactly?
    He is a Sith lord and in command of the Death Star?
    Chief Dwayne LeBlanc
    Paincourtville Volunteer Fire Department
    Paincourtville, LA

    "I have a dream. It's not a big dream, it's just a little dream. My dream — and I hope you don't find this too crazy — is that I would like the people of this community to feel that if, God forbid, there were a fire, calling the fire department would actually be a wise thing to do. You can't have people, if their houses are burning down, saying, 'Whatever you do, don't call the fire department!' That would be bad."
    — C.D. Bales, "Roxanne"

  15. #15
    MembersZone Subscriber
    dmleblanc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Location
    Not the end of the earth but I can see it from here...
    Posts
    2,318

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BULL321 View Post
    How do you WHERE a helmet?
    I do it all the time...

    Turnout coat - check
    Turnout pants - check
    Gloves - check
    Nomex hood - check..

    ...now WHERE in the heck is my helmet?
    Chief Dwayne LeBlanc
    Paincourtville Volunteer Fire Department
    Paincourtville, LA

    "I have a dream. It's not a big dream, it's just a little dream. My dream — and I hope you don't find this too crazy — is that I would like the people of this community to feel that if, God forbid, there were a fire, calling the fire department would actually be a wise thing to do. You can't have people, if their houses are burning down, saying, 'Whatever you do, don't call the fire department!' That would be bad."
    — C.D. Bales, "Roxanne"

  16. #16
    MembersZone Subscriber
    tajm611's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    2,071

    Default

    It's right they're.
    ‎"I was always taught..." Four words impacting fire service education in the most negative of ways. -Bill Carey

  17. #17
    MembersZone Subscriber
    tree68's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Jefferson County, NY USA
    Posts
    2,284

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dmleblanc View Post
    ...now WHERE in the heck is my helmet?
    And if that goes on long enough, the air tends to turn blue....
    Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.

    Everyone goes home. Safety begins with you.

  18. #18
    MembersZone Subscriber
    BULL321's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Western, NC
    Posts
    3,428

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tajm611 View Post
    It's right they're.
    Oh it's right WEAR I left it! Thanks.
    Stay Safe
    Bull


    “Guys if you get hurt, we’ll help you. If you get sick we’ll treat you. If you want to bitch and moan, then all I can tell you is to flick the sand out of your slit, suck it up or get the hell out!”
    - Capt. Marc Cox CFD

    Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result.
    -WINSTON CHURCHILL

  19. #19
    Forum Member
    DeputyChiefGonzo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2000
    Location
    Somewhere between genius and insanity!
    Posts
    13,584

    Default

    Originally Posted by Just Wondering
    My cousin has been a volunteer in NY for a while, and he said that he just got his black helmet. What does that mean exactly
    ?

    Quote Originally Posted by dmleblanc View Post
    He is a Sith lord and in command of the Death Star?
    Or he could be Dark Helmet form Spaceballs...
    ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
    Lt. Ray McCormack, FDNY

  20. #20
    Forum Member

    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    8

    Default

    I didn't ask him because him and I aren't exactly on the best of terms. He posted a picture of it on his facebook though.

  21. #21
    Forum Member
    islandfire03's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    2,586

    Talking

    Odds are that once he completed FF1 & 2 training he is qualified to go interior, hence the black helmet.

  22. #22
    MembersZone Subscriber
    tajm611's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    2,071

    Default

    Maybe the department helmet regulations were too buyist to white helmets.
    ‎"I was always taught..." Four words impacting fire service education in the most negative of ways. -Bill Carey

  23. #23
    Forum Member
    Jay Remmy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Posts
    82

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by islandfire03 View Post
    Odds are that once he completed FF1 & 2 training he is qualified to go interior, hence the black helmet.
    Sounds feasible. Gracias amigo

    (And all other amigo's-by-reply)
    :-J Remmy

  24. #24
    Forum Member
    Rescue101's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Bridgton,Me USA
    Posts
    8,162

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Just Wondering View Post
    I didn't ask him because him and I aren't exactly on the best of terms. He posted a picture of it on his facebook though.
    My guess is it means he got thru PROBATION. T.C.

  25. #25
    Forum Member
    trauma308's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    29

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Rescue101 View Post
    My guess is it means he got thru PROBATION. T.C.
    I'd have to agree, either that or he finished academy. My department issues the Paul Conway Classic, but you only get your black traditional once you graduate academy. Until then you're issued one of the older yellow salad bowls that used to be issued.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. New Firefighting Helmet Concepts - looking for some feedback
    By vandusbp in forum Firefighters Forum
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 02-09-2011, 08:12 PM
  2. Difference in Cairns helmets and other helmet ??? too.
    By cashton in forum Firefighters Forum
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 11-03-2010, 08:59 PM
  3. Helmet ?
    By chadf652 in forum Firefighters Forum
    Replies: 40
    Last Post: 09-14-2006, 09:36 PM
  4. GB Solo SOLOTIC Helmet for sale in USA
    By yalesurplus in forum Thermal Imaging Cameras
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 12-20-2005, 05:26 PM
  5. Holding An Old Leather Helmet
    By TailboardJockey in forum Firefighters Forum
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 05-27-2002, 04:58 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Log in

Click here to log in or register