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    when a fire explorer goes on a ride along with the ambulance, does the explorer get to help on the ambulance and can you help at the hospital?
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    Nobody here can answer that question. That depends on each department's individual rules for what explorers/juniors can and can not do. There is no nationwide standard for this. So the answer is maybe.
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    nmfire, thank you, can anybody tell me their department policy on this

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    Quote Originally Posted by great guy View Post
    nmfire, thank you, can anybody tell me their department policy on this
    Around here, in theory, the juniors can ride along if they make the page in time. In practice, however, we usually have enough full members show up to every page that there is no room for every member, let alone any juniors. Bit of a blessing and a curse - it's nice to have more than a full compliment respond, but it would be very beneficial to the juniors to see what actually goes on during a call.

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    Here, our Jr. FFs can ride on the Ambo once they get their Certified First Responder card (a class which our department offers 3 times a year). Since this is a state recognized (and EMS system recognized) level of EMS training, they can participate in patient care upto their level of training. Most of our Jr. FFs go on to get their EMT-B during their time with us, and at that point they may operate as EMT-Bs. The vast majority of the medics on our ambos are very good about working with them, and when they get their EMT-B, they get to be the "lead" on BLS calls (with close supervision, of course....and obviously they're not once the call goes ALS).

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    so what about at the hospital, do you help take the patient in the E.R and help the nurses and Doctors if needed, or do you stay in the ambulance

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    Quote Originally Posted by great guy View Post
    so what about at the hospital, do you help take the patient in the E.R and help the nurses and Doctors if needed, or do you stay in the ambulance
    The Jr. FFs do take the patient into the ED with the rest of the crew. Even us, as Medics, do almost nothing once we get into the ED, except 1) move the patient and associated lines/ O2 supply or 2) continue to provide compressions/ventilations if it is needed for the patient, until hospital staff can take over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATFDFF View Post
    The Jr. FFs do take the patient into the ED with the rest of the crew. Even us, as Medics, do almost nothing once we get into the ED, except 1) move the patient and associated lines/ O2 supply or 2) continue to provide compressions/ventilations if it is needed for the patient, until hospital staff can take over.
    oh ok thank, is this almost the same as everyone else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by great guy View Post
    oh ok thank, is this almost the same as everyone else?
    It varies GREATLY depending on the department. THE VAST MAJORITY of departments with Jr. FFs and Explorers don't even allow them to go on calls, no matter if they are EMS or fire. Some let them go and watch, it just really depends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by great guy View Post
    oh ok thank, is this almost the same as everyone else?
    The answer hasn't changed in the last two days.

    Quote Originally Posted by nmfire View Post
    Nobody here can answer that question. That depends on each department's individual rules for what explorers/juniors can and can not do. There is no nationwide standard for this. So the answer is maybe.
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmfire View Post
    Nobody here can answer that question. That depends on each department's individual rules for what explorers/juniors can and can not do. There is no nationwide standard for this. So the answer is maybe.
    At my department it's an OSHA standard that all Jr personal can't ride on apparatus until they are 16 even after that you can only ride on a pumper or tanker.

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