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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerialguy11 View Post
    Well FIREMECH1 I wasn't going to respond but when you call me "Your obviously as clueless as NEIOWA" I just had to respond..

    Aren't you the guy who bought E One Aerials and HME's before and only buy low bid anyway regardless of supporting a qualifed and well known local builder..

    As to Rosenbauer's new chassis it's not a secret "DUH" and theํr already offering it as they got fed up with Spartan. Spartan does build a great cab and chassis but my point was it's getting more and more frustrating to support the parent company (Spartan) when their subsidary is competing directly againest the very same people who've bought and supported Spartan for years and trust me I've got alot more experience in dealing with Spartan than you do.
    How about answering the question!! What is your beef with Spartan buying E-One, and coming together??? You said it wasn't a good thing... WHY NOT?!?!?!

    The comment about you being clueless, is pretty much spot on, from my perspective. You have no clue what could or would happen if this DID happen. You could possibly find one of the best cab/chassis/ladder assemblies built.

    As for what we purchased 10 yrs ago, Smeal wasn't in the picture for the aerials. We wanted aluminum ladders at that time. But to say we don't support our local aerial builder, is way off. We have 4 of them. The HME's were before my time, and a mistake, as they found out later. As for low bid go-getters, not true. We have gone with higher priced units that fit what we envisioned as a total package for our needs. This isn't about my equipment.

    Until Rosey can throw us a bone, it means nothing, and is just hearsay. But I did find this little tid-bit concerning this original topic.

    http://firehouse.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116866

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerialguy11 View Post
    It's NOT a secret just ask any Rosenbauer dealer as they are offering it now againest Spartan.

    I would have assumed they'd have liked to introduced it at FDIC this year but there is a lot to do to start from scratch and probably we'll see it at FDIC next year. They've formed a company called Rosenbauer Chassis's and hired the former CEO of Spartan Rich Shalter to lead it based in MN.
    This Richard Schalter???

    http://www.charlestonbusiness.com/ne...k-scheme?rss=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIREMECH1 View Post
    I hope you don't have the impression that the scheme was his idea. He just took one for the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerialguy11 View Post
    Well FIREMECH1
    Aren't you the guy who bought E One Aerials and HME's before and only buy low bid anyway regardless of supporting a qualifed and well known local builder..
    Hey FIREMECH1 didn't you guys just order an aerial made by a local manufacturer on another local manufacturers body and three engines from a qualified local well known manufacturer just 90 miles away??

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    Quote Originally Posted by firepundit View Post
    I hope you don't have the impression that the scheme was his idea. He just took one for the team.
    I don't know what went on, and don't care. Just something I found. Nothing more, nothing less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFD_E73_RET View Post
    Hey FIREMECH1 didn't you guys just order an aerial made by a local manufacturer on another local manufacturers body and three engines from a qualified local well known manufacturer just 90 miles away??
    Please define "local". If it is in Nebraska, it is local. If it is built in Iowa, it is not local.

    What is your point???

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIREMECH1 View Post
    Please define "local". If it is in Nebraska, it is local. If it is built in Iowa, it is not local.

    What is your point???

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    I thinking he was supporting the fact that you guys do buy/support quality apparatus from "local" manufacturers, just because they aren't Smeal, doesn't mean you're ignoring supporting local builders that fit your needs? Or I could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFDACM02 View Post
    I thinking he was supporting the fact that you guys do buy/support quality apparatus from "local" manufacturers, just because they aren't Smeal, doesn't mean you're ignoring supporting local builders that fit your needs? Or I could be wrong.
    Yes that is where I am coming from, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFD_E73_RET View Post
    Yes that is where I am coming from, thanks.
    My apologies for "over reading" your post, and missing your intentions.

    Thanks for watching my back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerialguy11 View Post
    It's NOT a secret just ask any Rosenbauer dealer as they are offering it now againest Spartan.

    I would have assumed they'd have liked to introduced it at FDIC this year but there is a lot to do to start from scratch and probably we'll see it at FDIC next year. They've formed a company called Rosenbauer Chassis's and hired the former CEO of Spartan Rich Shalter to lead it based in MN.

    I assume they'll introduce the most popular cab model first IE: MFD 10" Roof vs all the other models which takes time, engineering and testing and that's where Spartan has an advantage so Rosenbauer would still purchase Spartan as business is business.

    Oh to the comment about ALF "who'd buy one" I know for a fact that they just received another order from Ventura County CA and Buffalo has some on order and they've sold a number of new apparatus as the new management running it now is very professional and knowledgeable about the industry and lets face it sometimes people have long and short memories so don't count them out!...
    Just wondering where the Buffalo info can be found? They just took delivery of 2 Spartan/Crimson pumpers and a Spartan/Crimson midmount tower ladder. Just trying to figure out why, after all the issues with ALF, they would even concider going back to them...especially where they have these 3 new units. Im just looking to find out where I can confirm this information.

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    Default Buffalo

    http://www.westfieldfiresales.com/

    This dealer had sigfned a five year contract with Buffalo for Crimson apparatus but are no longer listed as the Crimson dealer for that part of New York.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reliance View Post
    http://www.westfieldfiresales.com/

    This dealer had sigfned a five year contract with Buffalo for Crimson apparatus but are no longer listed as the Crimson dealer for that part of New York.
    I knew that but as the press release says, its not a solid 5 year contract. Its a 1 year contract with the ability to add on an additional 4, one year at a time contracts. So it is possible that they cut ties with Crimson and initiated a purchase from ALF. Its certainly a possibility where Buffalo is listed as having a factory direct rep. Maybe something happened with that dealer which soured the relationship?

    In any case, Im looking to get confirmation on the news that Buffalo is once again purchasing ALF. Not that I dont believe the original poster of that tidbit, but is there a press release from ALF or its dealer network, or is that something he "heard"?

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    The ALF that are being mentioned are from a order with ALF four years ago.
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    I could see Spartan buying another mfg
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    Smile spartan

    How about Spartan buying SVI in Colorado?

    I think that wold be a good buy if i were looking

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    I think SVI is quite stable and I doubt they would be looking for a buyer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladderman View Post
    buffalo is very happy with crimson. The alf that are being mentioned are from a order with alf four years ago.
    i do not know what your association is with crimson,but buffalo ny is not happy with crimson.and do not plan on buying any more.

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    Is it Crimson they are not happy with or the dealer who is no longer listed with Crimson.

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    Last I heard, E-One has no debt and is on VERY solid ground... so I don't believe they're selling out to Spartan. They (Spartan) did buy Classic Fire, which used to be part of E-One.
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    where or who build the product from classic now for e-one.

    thanks

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    E-ONE is now building the majority of the Classic product.

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    E-one have a new web site. I just want a Flickr page or another place to see majority of new deliveries with uptate each week like another big company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daviddnb View Post
    where or who build the product from classic now for e-one.

    thanks
    Spartan bought Classic so I think they are building them for themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reliance View Post
    Spartan bought Classic so I think they are building them for themselves
    More info here:

    http://www.fireapparatusmagazine.com...s_classic.html

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