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    Quote Originally Posted by 50 View Post
    That has nothing to do with it. The only reason these contracors are even giving you ANY time off at all is because of the work visa's that are issued to you. You have to leave the country for a specified amount of time before you can return to work. All according to the specific work visa you are issued. If you get caught being in violation of your visa agreement, you will be considered an illegal alien.
    You really need to do some research.

    My comment was in response to him stating he would not be tax exempt based on the work schedule. I stated correctly so that if he does not enter the USA on his off time, then he will qualify.

    Also, regarding the 330 days...it is 330 days in a 12 month period. Simply put, you shift your tax year to accommodate your days out of the USA. It does not have to run Jan to Jan which usually means you hire a certified CPA to assist which also means the paragraph below is difficult to achieve.

    Another poster mentioned the passport never being checked...yes you are correct...you can do your taxes, claim tax exempt and be ok...as long as you are not audited.

    Regarding this particular contract, there is nothing to do with visas. Most people on Kandahar or other large bases in Afghanistan do NOT have visas since they never leave the base. For those who transit outside, convoy, etc...yes they have to get visas but again those come in 6 month or 12 month options with zero stipulation on how long you are inside the country.
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    Ya will do kenon. Are you Pursuing ATCO as well?

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    Considering it. VandalFF, do you allow private messages?
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    Yes I do get messages if tha doesn't work I'll post my email though.

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    Ak... I don't want this to turn into a big argument like so many posts on here, but just so everyone is clear on what you are saying....Acording to you, everyone is fine, as long as long as they don't get audited? That doesn't sound like very good advice to give a first timer. From what I'm gathering, you are saying there is a legit way do do things and there is the later. Again, I'm not trying to argue with you, cause I don't know all the facts. I'm just simply asking questions. Maybe you can clear it up a bit better. And just for and anyone reading this... I was told by the emergency response manager directly with ATCO that I would not qualify for the tax credit. And as for the research I have done, i read a couple of post from others that said they did not receive the tax credit. I'm not saying this is fact, just what i have read from others.

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    AK... I went back and re-read your post again. And I believe what you are saying is that as long as you don't come back to the USA on your time off, you are tax exempt. So, acording to you, as long as you stay out of the country for 330 days, weather you are working or not, you are tax exempt. Is that correct? That is, as long as the IRS doesn't find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50 View Post
    AK... I went back and re-read your post again. And I believe what you are saying is that as long as you don't come back to the USA on your time off, you are tax exempt. So, acording to you, as long as you stay out of the country for 330 days, weather you are working or not, you are tax exempt. Is that correct? That is, as long as the IRS doesn't find out.
    I have written on this before in previous threads, a couple years ago by now for sure.

    **Note, I did NOT advocate the guy risking it and not being audited, I merely played off his suggestion.

    After reading this, ALWAYS consult IRS.gov and a certified CPA for all your tax needs and questions.

    The rule is if you are out of the USA for 330 days in a 12 month period your first 91,400 is tax exempt. Anything over that is taxed and it is taxed at that higher bracket (thank George Bush and his Heart Act).

    Example:

    Old way
    Salary 100K 91K tax exempt 9K paid at tax bracket as if this is all you earned

    New Way
    Salary 100K 91K tax exempt 9K paid at tax bracket of 100K

    So yes, if you went to ATCO and stayed one year and did not go to the USA on your holidays, you will qualify for the tax exemption.

    If others stated they did not receive a tax credit, then they did not file properly or they exceeded their days in the USA.

    All your questions can be answered by the IRS who actually are very easy to get hold of via email or phone (have done this many times) or contact a certified CPA. Again I stress certified CPA...do not go to one of those tax places that employ minimum wage workers for 4 months every year who follow computer prompts. It is well worth spending the 200-400 dollars to have a CPA do your taxes properly.

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    Simple question: Do you HAVE to leave base during your time off?

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    I'm no expert on the tax issue either but as I understand it as long as you're out of the US for 330 days you don't pay on the first 80k. That 80k number comes from what I was told when being processed with WSI. Now I'm not sure if being on vacation or a being in another country on a work visa both count towards that 330 days. The IRS may only count the days you're on a work visa but again not to sure. Kenon don't know if you can stay on the base or not. I think part of the work visa states you can only be in their country for so long before you hav to leave then come back...also I don't know if you sent one but I haven't gotten that message yet.

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    Vandall, when I click on your name, there's no option to PM you. Maybe you don't have it set up in your profile to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VandalFF View Post
    I'm no expert on the tax issue either but as I understand it as long as you're out of the US for 330 days you don't pay on the first 80k. That 80k number comes from what I was told when being processed with WSI. Now I'm not sure if being on vacation or a being in another country on a work visa both count towards that 330 days. The IRS may only count the days you're on a work visa but again not to sure. Kenon don't know if you can stay on the base or not. I think part of the work visa states you can only be in their country for so long before you hav to leave then come back...also I don't know if you sent one but I haven't gotten that message yet.
    Once again, please read...there is NO work Visa for Afghanistan. If you travel off bases, yes you should have a visit Visa but there is no time stipulation on how long you can or can not be in country.

    No you can not stay on base when it is your scheduled holiday time...why the hell would you want to???

    And 80K is the old tax deduction, a couple years ago it was increased to 91,400 as I wrote.

    Your days in the USA are calculated by looking at your passport. This will be one of the few ways to prove you were or were not out of the USA for the 330 days.

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    AK, no disprespect to your knowledge and experience, but I've just spoken with someone who was with WSI and is now with ITT. He is very confident that you don't have to leave base if you don't want to. He once went more than 8 months without R&R and insists he knows what he's talking about. No offense to you, you seem very knowledgeable on the subject overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennon7 View Post
    AK, no disprespect to your knowledge and experience, but I've just spoken with someone who was with WSI and is now with ITT. He is very confident that you don't have to leave base if you don't want to. He once went more than 8 months without R&R and insists he knows what he's talking about. No offense to you, you seem very knowledgeable on the subject overall.
    The question was do you have to leave the base during your off time...this was interpreted as "I am on leave but not leaving the base", hence me asking why the hell would you want to?

    The situation you described is simply deferring your RnR or not taking it at all...entirely different scenario.

    Also that is dependent on the company and their rules. ATCO is pretty consistent in everyone taking their time off and they should be. Everyone needs downtime and spending 6, 7 or 8 months in theater with no leave is detrimental to overall department safety and the employee's mental health or coworker/supervisor relationships.

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    AK do you work for ATCO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VandalFF View Post
    AK do you work for ATCO?
    No I do not.

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    Got it you just sound like you've had some experience with them before. Are you working or have worked overseas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKflightmedic View Post
    Also that is dependent on the company and their rules.
    Agreed, your R&R is Dependant on what company you work for. Call the HR department and find out what the rules are.


    Get a qualified CPA. I used pallazo while I was overseas... http://palazzocpa.com/

    Everything flighmedic has said is spot on, but 2010 is 91,500.

    Check out this FAQ page on taxes for overseas work. http://palazzocpa.com/faqs/

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    Quote Originally Posted by VandalFF View Post
    Got it you just sound like you've had some experience with them before. Are you working or have worked overseas?
    I am fast approaching my 5th anniversary of being in Afghanistan, specifically Kandahar. Think I know the scoop on taxes, politics and companies?

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    Yes I'm sure you have and i dont think anyone on this thread has been discrediting you. Some of these guys know people there too and are just relaying the information they get is all. My post was based on the info I got just past November from WSI and it wouldn't surprise me if it all wasnt completely accurate. 5 years it quite a long time are you contract or military?

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    Default overseas firefighting jobs

    If I'm not mistaken, WSI no longer does firefighting contracts overseas. They were going to hire me last year, but I didn't have my ARFF yet. By the time I got it, they told me their contract was up, that they were not renewing it, and the last deployment left november 10, 2010. I have put my app in with a couple other companies recently, but have yet to hear from them. I currently have been a firefighter for 9 years and have Firefighter I/II, Hazmat Ops/Awareness, ARFF, FEMA NIMS ICS 100 and 200 and will be completing the D/O course in a week. Medically, I have my active unrestricted LPN license in KY and IN, ACLS, AHA BLS/CPR/AED and am going to take the PHTLS soon. If anyone knows of any jobs that I'm qualified for, please feel free to contact me. Thanks.

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