Toyne and LTI

[Dashman]

Announcement coming soon!

[FWDbuff]

I thought it already got announced????? Toyne had it on their Facebook page last week or the week before????

[rmcatee1]

Well, with ALF making their chassis available to OEM's, it was just a matter of time before they offered the aerial line as well....

[BoxAlarm187]

ALF announced at FDIC that both their chassis and the LTI aerial lines would be available to OEMs...

[rmcatee1]

ALF announced at FDIC that both their chassis and the LTI aerial lines would be available to OEMs...

I didn't make it to FDIC this year......

What does everyone else think about this? Will other manufacturers follow suit? Could Seagrave offer their Aerialscope to other OEM's? In these lean times, it might help the manufacturers survive...

[FWDbuff]

I didn't make it to FDIC this year......

What does everyone else think about this? ...

I know a LOT of people that are waiting for the Snorkel/Squrt line of products to be made available..........

[Rescue101]

Toyne with LTI? What's NOT to like about that? Don't think RK will like it but who knows. I'll be interested ti see how that marriage looks, should make a NICE rig. T.C.

[WoodbridgeFFII]

Are the LTI aerials built at the American Lafrance S.C plant or up here in PA, ?

[chiefengineer11]

Are the LTI aerials built at the American Lafrance S.C plant or up here in PA, ?

Ephrata, Pa.

[OneL1L]

I know a LOT of people that are waiting for the Snorkel/Squrt line of products to be made available..........

Or why not just sell off the intellectual property rights for that line? You at least get yourself some $ that way. It seems like ALF is getting $0 for a product (Telesqurts and Squrts) that at least in theory should have some value.

I know that Snorkels are now a really small niche product, but obviously there are people (especially in Chicagoland) who still want them. I never got why ALF just quit making them rather than sell off the rights to the design to somebody.

[Command6]

Or why not just sell off the intellectual property rights for that line? You at least get yourself some $ that way. It seems like ALF is getting $0 for a product (Telesqurts and Squrts) that at least in theory should have some value.

I know that Snorkels are now a really small niche product, but obviously there are people (especially in Chicagoland) who still want them. I never got why ALF just quit making them rather than sell off the rights to the design to somebody.

If memory serves me correct, there has not been a Snorkel manufactured since 2001 (give or take).

C6

[chiefengineer11]

Or why not just sell off the intellectual property rights for that line? You at least get yourself some $ that way. It seems like ALF is getting $0 for a product (Telesqurts and Squrts) that at least in theory should have some value.

I know that Snorkels are now a really small niche product, but obviously there are people (especially in Chicagoland) who still want them. I never got why ALF just quit making them rather than sell off the rights to the design to somebody.

I'm sure you're right, there should be a niche market for them. I don't claim to know any answers, but I'll take a shot in the dark. It's called liability. The engineering bucks it would take to bring them up to today's standards and for testing and certification would be pretty astronomical. Not to mention manufacturing tooling as well. Unless you have a pretty large order book for them, it's doubtful that anyone could cost justify what it would take. Real shame, while time and experience showed us that they had alot of limitations, they did have their uses. I'll make a guess that ALF may have tried to sell it, but no takers.

Rumor has it that Squrts and Telesqurts will be available to OEMs.

[tomwnh]

Toyne with LTI? What's NOT to like about that? Don't think RK will like it but who knows. I'll be inteested ti see how that marriage looks, should make a NICE rig. T.C.

RK, or Rosenbauer Lyons at least, cut Tyone off on the RK product so if they don't like them using American LaFrance aerials they have no one to blame but themselves.

[rmcatee1]

If memory serves me correct, there has not been a Snorkel manufactured since 2001 (give or take).

C6

Your memory is right on. We talked about this in a thread I started in September of last year. The 3 Chicago Snorkel Squads were the last of the Snorkel product built, according to an email I received from ALF.

[BoxAlarm187]

Rumor has it that Squrts and Telesqurts will be available to OEMs.

I can confirm that's true.

In fact, here's a press release (dated today) from Virginia's CustomFire dealer about this.

[Rescue101]

Ephrata, Pa.

By the folks that KNOW them Best,T.C.

[Rescue101]

RK, or Rosenbauer Lyons at least, cut Tyone off on the RK product so if they don't like them using American LaFrance aerials they have no one to blame but themselves.

I DOUBT it was Robs idea. Although I can see why Harold would grate over it. T.c.

[WoodbridgeFFII]

Toyne should have made a deal with Smeal, at least they can get parts for the aerials. trying to get parts & service for any ALF/LTI apparatus maybe difficult in the near future?

[CanadianFyrTrks]

Toyne should have made a deal with Smeal, at least they can get parts for the aerials. trying to get parts & service for any ALF/LTI apparatus maybe difficult in the near future?

I would think it's a wait and see situation with ALF, I imagine at this point they have their Ducks in a row in order to sell off their chassis' and aerials to other manufacturers... Maybe Desperate Times call for desperate measures.

[rmcatee1]

I'm sure that Toyne and others made sure that parts were available first. I can't imagine any OEM jumping in without knowing exactly what to expect.....