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    Default Radio Holster/Strap Pros VS. Cons

    I'm interested in getting one because the radio pocket on the coat is becoming more and more of a PITA. Just curious to know the pros and cons of the holsters before I go and buy one. Or if anyone has any tricks with the radio pockets on coats that would be good too.


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    Been using a Boston strap for years. I like it a lot, hate having things pulling on my belt, also nice because you don't have to find a place to hang your lapel mic when your out of your bunkers.

    Biggest trick is figuring out how you want to wear it with your bunker gear. I wear mine under my coat, and let the lapel mic dangle from my neck opening. I like this set up as the leather strap doesn't present as an entanglement hazard, and the radio is still accessible to turn channels, volume, etc... as it is sticking out from below the coat. Have seen many other ways to wear it, you'll need to figure out what is best for you.
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    Went for a couple years without, never did find a good way to wear my radio/use the radio pocket. Mic kept falling from its strap, no matter how I wrapped the cord/used carabiners/used other devices.

    Now I use a strap, and have had no problems. I wear it outside gear/under SCBA, I doubt it presents any greater entanglement hazard than the SCBA straps themselves. In fact, the SCBA seems to keep it "locked in place" so it's not dangling/swinging around (as it can when not wearing SCBA).
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    I really don't like them... I put the radio in the pocket and drape the mic around my neck up under the collar and clip it to the opposite side of the collar. I've also found wearing it on the belt over your belt under the turnouts and running the mic up over your shoulder works well (Not a good idea to do so when using SCBA since it's impossible to reach once you put it there).
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    This idea was slow to catch on around here, but once people started seeing the benifits of a strap they spread like wildfire.

    I wear mine over my coat and under my SCBA. Like Pita said, can't be more of an entanglement hazard than the SCBA itself.

    Where the straps shined was during MAYDAY training. Guys found that in certain situations and positions that it was hard and next to impossible to get the radio out of the coat pocket. With the radios we use we also have the option of transmitting by either the lapel mic or the button on the side of the radio when the lapel mic is in use. A little versatility never hurt anyone.
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    I had one for a while but stopped using it. Our radios are stored on the trucks and it's was a pita to get the radio in the strap with all the other things we have to do when we get on the truck. Also with three trucks in the station we don't knownwhat we are going to roll so I couldn't set it up ahead of time. Others in the station use them, and i think they're great for when not wearing gear.

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    Where the straps shined was during MAYDAY training. Guys found that in certain situations and positions that it was hard and next to impossible to get the radio out of the coat pocket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpita View Post
    Went for a couple years without, never did find a good way to wear my radio/use the radio pocket. Mic kept falling from its strap, no matter how I wrapped the cord/used carabiners/used other devices.
    When I used the radio pocket on the turnout coat, I used the "Gear Keeper" retractable do-hicky to hold the lapel mic. That worked very well. Just a thought.

    Also, as a side thought, spend the extra few bucks when you get the radio strap and get the "anti-sway" strap (little leather that goes between the radio holster and a belt loop. Works well on medicals and such so the radio doesn't wack your patient in the face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FiremanLyman View Post
    Also, as a side thought, spend the extra few bucks when you get the radio strap and get the "anti-sway" strap (little leather that goes between the radio holster and a belt loop. Works well on medicals and such so the radio doesn't wack your patient in the face.
    Thanks, I was just looking at them now actually.


    So far everyone seems to like them. Any other opinions of BAD things? I'm hearing a lot of good, just curious if there is anything bad about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FiremanLyman View Post
    Works well on medicals and such so the radio doesn't wack your patient in the face.
    You say that like its a bad thing

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    I got myself one back couple years ago and have loved it ever since. It puts the mic right at chest level were you can hear, so your not trying to lean over or cup your hand to hear a radio on your belt.

    None of the others in my station want use it, so have to take the radio out every morning during checks and remove cover to attach the mic and at replace it at shift change.

    Only Con and it was my fault don't forgot to clip the holder/swing strap to your belt. Almost knocked a PT. in the head when leaned over to strap her down to backboard. Luck have it hit the back board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiremanLyman View Post
    Works well on medicals and such so the radio doesn't wack your patient in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deluge059 View Post
    You say that like its a bad thing
    I'm with DL59, no need to do the arm-drop thing to see if they're out or just faking. Just knock 'em out and be done with it.

    But seriously, I do have the anti-sway. I was referring to the strap moving when in gear/no SCBA, with nothing to which to clip the anti-sway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deluge059 View Post
    You say that like its a bad thing
    I could give a sh it if it hit my patient in the face lol, but the first time I bent down, wasn't paying attention and stood back up and caught a XTS2500 in the nuts was the last time I wore the strap without the ant-sway clip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chenzo View Post
    I could give a sh it if it hit my patient in the face lol, but the first time I bent down, wasn't paying attention and stood back up and caught a XTS2500 in the nuts was the last time I wore the strap without the ant-sway clip.
    lol Okay I'll make damn sure I get the anti-sway strap then. Thanks for the tip.
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    I have one and love it. I had a leather worker add a couple loops to keep the cord inline.



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    My department purchases straps and pouches for all the radios and it is in SOPs that they be used. I guess the chief found that we aren't leaving radios laying around (losing them) if they're in a strap.

    I used to wear my strap over the coat and under the SCBA until a few years ago. I since changed to under the coat with the mic out the collar. I am able to put my turnout gear on while leaving my strap in place including not even having to unhook the anti-sway strap from my duty pants. I leave the bottom half of the pouch sticking out from under my coat so that it is easy to find with my hand in case I have to change a channel.
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    i just started using one....

    i like it, it does solve the issue of the mic dropping to the knees. i wear it under my coat and i pull the mike out in between the neck flap and the top of the velcro.

    i do think it belongs under the coat not over it.
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    All officers got them a few years ago. Now it's a mix of who uses them and who doesn't.

    Personally, never had a problem with the radio in the pocket and the mic clipped on the strap on my coat. Can lean my head to side a little bit and that's enough to hit the transmit button and talk "hands free".

    When in a "compromised" position...I don't need to get to the radio. I'm not changing channels or anything, all I want to do is be able to transmit.

    I didn't like the strap as it was 1 more thing to strap around me. 1 more thing to put on in the right order so SCBA straps were not an issue. Wasn't finding any benefit to the strap. However, when not wearing a turnout coat, the strap is better than putting radio in pants pocket and mic on suspenders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanK63 View Post
    Thanks, I was just looking at them now actually.


    So far everyone seems to like them. Any other opinions of BAD things? I'm hearing a lot of good, just curious if there is anything bad about them.
    Bad things? They cost money to solve issues that can be solved without spending a penny...
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    I wear one at work, but not at the VFD:

    At work, we're using radios that (IMHO) are large and heavy - Motorola XTS3000's. We're in a company doing 10-12 runs a day, so my radio gets to spend a lot of time on me. When we're doing EMS runs, I use it with the anti-sway strap hooked to my rear center belt loop. On runs where my turnouts are required, I have my turnouts prepared exactly the same way every time, so it's very natural for me to don my hood, pants & suspenders, radio strap, and then coat. Only takes a couple of seconds, and places my radio in a position that's far more comfortable and convenient than having it in the chest pocket.

    I don't use it at the VFD because of the size of the radios - Motorola HT1250's. They're more comfortable (again, just my opinion) to clip to the belt loop for an EMS run, and slide into the chest pocket on a fire run. We're also rarely changing channels, and so having quick access to the radio isn't as paramount. I tried to the radio strap for a while, but just didn't see it's advantage with our lower call volume and the size of the radio itself.
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    Okay so I found the holder I'm getting, but my question now is it say's it's "Motorola HT1200 & 700 Series w/9008A Battery and Limited Key Pad. I have a 9008A battery but it's a cheap knockoff brand and doesn't hold a charge long at all, and the main battery I use is an actual Motorola, but it's a 9010A battery. I compared size, the 9010 is barely bigger, I'm talking like a CM if that. Would this holder still work? Just trying to find out before I buy something that I can't use.
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