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You would think that these bistard would have not charged them.
I stop flying Delta several years ago!
http://abcnews.go.com/US/delta-charg...ry?id=13791417
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06-08-2011, 06:43 PM #1Forum Member
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Delta Airlines Charge Soilders for extra baggage
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06-08-2011, 07:21 PM #2Forum Member
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Delta charges everybody for extra baggage. So what?
"Nemo Plus Voluptatis Quam Nos Habant"
The Code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.
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06-08-2011, 07:39 PM #3Back In Black
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BOOOO
Cut the men and women in uniform a break....I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.
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06-08-2011, 09:59 PM #4Forum Member
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How is this news??? Delta's policy has been that way for a long time. The soldiers were given incorrect information by their superiors. What do you want the ticket and gate agents to do, rewrite airline policy on a whim and get fired?
Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.
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Why? (Although I see Delta has done so for PR anyway...)
Originally Posted by ChiefKN
"Nemo Plus Voluptatis Quam Nos Habant"
The Code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.
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06-08-2011, 10:52 PM #6Back In Black
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Because they are serving this country... you don't think that veterans and active duty folks deserve a break? Originally Posted by DeputyMarshal
Why give a senior citizen discounts?
I think its a small thing to do for those who sacrifice in the service of this country.I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.
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06-08-2011, 10:53 PM #7Back In Black
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Hmm... i'm reading the few posts so far, and noone is proposing that. Originally Posted by nmfire
But go on, I can see its fun for you to get worked up.Last edited by ChiefKN; 06-08-2011 at 10:59 PM.
I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.
"The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list."
"When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department usually uses water."
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06-08-2011, 10:58 PM #8Back In Black
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Thanks Delta!
http://www.dailyrecord.com/article/B...xt|FRONTPAGE|sI am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.
"The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list."
"When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department usually uses water."
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06-08-2011, 11:05 PM #9Forum Member
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Originally Posted by DeputyMarshal
Did you read the story?
These were soliders returning from a combat zone! Why not let them have the extra baggage and not charge them. A small price to pay to show appreication.
Have you ever been in the military?
You don't screw service people or veterans.Stay Safe and Well Out There....
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I am glad to see that Delta has changed a misguided policy (at best). I tend to agree with those saying the ticket or gate agents shouldn't be held to the fire for this; they were enforcing a corporate policy. I also would hope that given the nature of their travel, and the nature of the extra bag mentioned, that at least some type of "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" arrangement could have been made.
One point not made in the linked article, but it did air on the 6PM news I saw. ABC checked with a variety of other carriers and they all had similar policies, but all changed based on this one episode. They all saw the common backlash against Delta and "proactively" changed their established policies prior to ABC airing the report. It was not just Delta.Opinions expressed are mine alone, and do not necessarily reflect those of the Philadelphia Fire Department and/or IAFF Local 22.
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The arz wipes have changed their policy.
I would think too many folks plus all the service groups, American Legion. VFW, DAV and others gave them a rash of grief.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/...20070133.shtmlStay Safe and Well Out There....
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06-09-2011, 12:26 AM #12Forum Member
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Policies
Why does it take something like this to make a change in a policy. They should have done the changing before anything happened. Wake up companies......how about giving those who serve our country a break.
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06-09-2011, 03:14 AM #13Let's talk fire trucks!
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Because it's the right thing to do for the folks that have been overseas serving the US, spending a year or more away from their families, and generally living in conditions that few of us would want to. Originally Posted by DeputyMarshal
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He should have just taken it as his carry-on."For me it was a weapons case, holding my M4, 203 grenade launcher and a 9-mm, the tools that I used to protect myself and Afghan citizens while in the country,"
It sounds like Delta already provided a break.. They allowed soldiers under orders to have 3 bags vs 2 for everyone else. So it's appears to be an issue that the number of bags isn't enough for long deployments. That's different then Delta not providing anything.So you call this your free country
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As I see it,
REALITY SHOULD have been that Troops returning from ANY Combat deployment SHOULD ONLY be flying in aircraft contracted out to move them....IF that were the case then Delta or ANY airline should have NEVER applied ANY of their "standard" rules towards them....these flights should be ONLY for Service members and service members only.....period....any and ALL luggage moving with the troops should simply go with them....no questions asked and certainly NOT charged for additionally to the troops.....
Simple solution to that ever occuring again......
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On everything? No. I certainly don't think that a public carrier should be expected to pick up part of the cost of their transport on orders. Originally Posted by ChiefKN
Because somebody decided it's good marketing. Presumably they account for a valuable market to influence. Soldiers? Honestly? Not so much.Why give a senior citizen discounts?
That ranks right up there with, "It's for the children."I think its a small thing to do for those who sacrifice in the service of this country.
Respect and thanks are one thing; expecting every private business to roll over and make special accomodations is another."Nemo Plus Voluptatis Quam Nos Habant"
The Code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.
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Yes. So I know they're getting reimbursed by the service. As they should be. Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer
Which is why the military should be picking up the entire tab -- not a public carrier.These were soliders returning from a combat zone!
Because it would be unfair to the other passengers.Why not let them have the extra baggage and not charge them.
Nobody was "screwed" here. They just didn't get special treatment -- nor should they have. It's not Delta's job to finance the military's screw ups.You don't screw service people or veterans."Nemo Plus Voluptatis Quam Nos Habant"
The Code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.
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Agreed. As soon as you start moving troops via public carrier, it's entirely reasonable to apply the same rules as for anyone else. Originally Posted by Northern Lights FF
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My heart bleeds for poor ol' Delta airlines. Those extra charges are crap, if they want to pass them on to the troops. Fine. I reserve the right to think that it's a pretty ***** way for them make a buck. Originally Posted by DeputyMarshal
It seems Delta disagrees with you.Respect and thanks are one thing; expecting every private business to roll over and make special accomodations is another.I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.
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06-10-2011, 06:19 PM #20FossilMedic
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They are not getting a "break." Originally Posted by DeputyMarshal
Department of Defense has a contract with Delta and the other carriers on military transport.
Problem was that the DoD orders authorized four pieces of luggage.
The contracts would pay for four pieces for 1st class passengers but only paid for three pieces for those DoD members flying coach.
The soldiers will get reimbursed for the luggage fee - along with their per-diem travel expenses - when they submitted their travel documents.
It still sucks, but not sure Delta is being the bad player.
The contract with Delta should have matched the travel authorization orders.
Imagine that they do, now.Last edited by MikeWard; 06-10-2011 at 06:22 PM.
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