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    Hey guys, I have been considering enlisting in the army national guard, the air national guard or really any of the reserves. I have been working as an FF/Paramedic for 6 years now and am really interested in serving. I was just wondering if anyone has some information on the different options I have that might best use my current skills. I am in pretty good shape and am not too worried about basic training. I am just curious about the differences and options out there. Any information or help you guys could give me would be great.
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    from what the recruiters have told me is any regular military "medic/nurse" is an EMT-B or an LPN (depending on service: USAF = LPN, USN = both, USA = medic). The only way to keep your ALS is to go into Special Operations. The USAF has something called Pararescue, and from what I've read in books, you can choose either combat rescue man or non combat rescue man (the USAF used these to search after Katrina hit).
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1999msp View Post
    Hey guys, I have been considering enlisting in the army national guard, the air national guard or really any of the reserves. I have been working as an FF/Paramedic for 6 years now and am really interested in serving. I was just wondering if anyone has some information on the different options I have that might best use my current skills. I am in pretty good shape and am not too worried about basic training. I am just curious about the differences and options out there. Any information or help you guys could give me would be great.
    Thanks,
    If you are going reserves I don't think Pararescue would be a viable option. Since you are wanting to do reserves obvious you want to keep your civ ff/medic job so the sky is the limit. To go in an AF medical field you would be a clinic technician with a few exceptions. There's also the army combat medic as an option. Honestly though, not to sound cliche, but talking to local recruiters is your best option. They know what is available in the local units. When you have some specific job choices that you would like to weigh in on, i'm sure we could give you the low-down but until then it depends on what you want to do or what direction you want to go into. My suggestion (my two cents only) is do something that you have NO experience in and broaden your skills. I was active duty af ffer for 6 years then got a civ fed ff job afterwards. I also continued my service in the ang as a ffer. I recently cross-trained into special duty assignment (for the guard) as an instructor and submitted my package for office candidate school. Point is, why sell yourself short in one career field when the government will pay for your technical training in anything else available? </end rant>

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    Army Medics are required to be NREMT-B at the very least, these are known as 68W (MOS) ,there is a LVN position known as M6 (mike 6) or 68WM6.

    The USAF 4N0X1 AFSC (MOS) are required to be NREMT-B also but in 2008 the career field recognized paramedics and assigned them a special experience identifier 456. This means that you will only be assigned to Paramedic positions, whether that be in the ER/ICU or actually doing EMS/Field Medic work. We also have Airevac (AE) units that are reserve/guard

    The USAF also has Pararescue, there are reserve units and you can find their locations at this site http://www.pararescue.com/unitinfo.aspx?id=444 to see if there is one close to you. Be advised that the training pipeline for Pararescue is 2-2.5 years barring academic setbacks and or injuries.

    I recently separated from the AF and was a 4NX1 and was a Paramedic instructor at the Pararescue School. I have deployed with the army and have done many combat medic missions and critical care transport in Afghanistan. by all means let me know if you have other questions, good luck.

    If you are set on the Army,i am sure that you cold find a unit, they will recognize your Paramedic, and if you wanna fly you can find a dust off unit...

    If you want to do balls to the wall high speed stuff...and think you can handle the challenge go for Pararescue...it is no walk in the park and there is close to a 90% fail rate (attrition rate)

    If you want the opportunity to do all of the above...go USAF A's a 4NX1...I have done alot of cool stuff...

    Good luck!

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    Army Medics are required to be NREMT-B at the very least, these are known as 68W (MOS) ,there is a LVN position known as M6 (mike 6) or 68WM6.

    The USAF 4N0X1 AFSC (MOS) are required to be NREMT-B also but in 2008 the career field recognized paramedics and assigned them a special experience identifier 456. This means that you will only be assigned to Paramedic positions, whether that be in the ER/ICU or actually doing EMS/Field Medic work. We also have Airevac (AE) units that are reserve/guard

    The USAF also has Pararescue, there are reserve units and you can find their locations at this site http://www.pararescue.com/unitinfo.aspx?id=444 to see if there is one close to you. Be advised that the training pipeline for Pararescue is 2-2.5 years barring academic setbacks and or injuries.

    I recently separated from the AF and was a 4NX1 and was a Paramedic instructor at the Pararescue School. I have deployed with the army and have done many combat medic missions and critical care transport in Afghanistan. by all means let me know if you have other questions, good luck.

    If you are set on the Army,i am sure that you cold find a unit, they will recognize your Paramedic, and if you wanna fly you can find a dust off unit...

    If you want to do balls to the wall high speed stuff...and think you can handle the challenge go for Pararescue...it is no walk in the park and there is close to a 90% fail rate (attrition rate)

    If you want the opportunity to do all of the above...go USAF A's a 4NX1...I have done alot of cool stuff...

    Good luck!

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    Thanks for all the information everyone...

    To give you a little more background on myself and what I am hoping to do. I have worked as a Paramedic for a privet ambulance service for 6 years. We are rather large and cover 8 counties with primary 911 response in both rural and urban environments. I am currently a full time lead senior paramedic with that organization. I was previously a FF/Paramedic on a career department, however, due to political and financial cut backs I was laid off and returned to full time EMS. I have also been working as an adjunct EMS instructor at our local community college for the past year, teaching EMT and Paramedic courses and continuing education classes.

    So all of that to say... I believe I have narrowed down my choices to the Army national guard and the Air National guard. With the army I would be considering the 68W (combat medic) and eventually doing flight medic. According to what I have read you have to be a combat medic for 1 year prior to going to flight medic school. I don't know if I could get some sort of a pass due to my paramedic experience or not.

    -jggassert
    Now, since you recently separated from the AF I was hoping you could give me a little more info on the airevac tech route. For the army I have found that they put you through EMT-B training and due to my EMT-P status I would be fast tracked to the later portion of this. Would this also be true with the AF? Could you give me a better idea of what a person in the ANG in an airevac position would do? I have only found the general description for the position online. Any more insight on the tracks I could take within the ANG and possibilities would be great.

    Sorry for the long message I just want to make sure I know what I am getting into before I start talking with a recruiter. I like having all my ducks in a row before hand.

    Thanks for any information you can give me.

    - Matt

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    I was an emtp before joining the ARNG. If you go Army you will get the MOS 68W10. You will most likely come in as an E-4 (army - Specialist, AF - Senior Airman)... where you go from there depends on what state you are in.

    The reserves and guard (army and AF) operate on the basis of available slots. If there is a high-speed aeromedevac slot open in your state, then you may get lucky, and your recruiter could line you up with that job. Make sure you ask about available slots before you sign anything. Ask about what units are in your area, and what jobs they will have for medics. Don't be disappointed if there are no slots you like out there. Most of the high-speed slots get picked up really quick.

    You will go through basic, and head to AIT. You will be fast-tracked past the first 6 weeks. After you get to your unit they may expect more from you, but every story will be different... especially with the inconsistancy that exists in the guard/reserves.

    I started out as a line medic with an infantry unit, made squad leader quickly, and got my stripes quickly due to my education. If you are assertive, help with training the other soldiers, and are good at your job; you will do well. At the same time, don't be a know-it-all. The Army has some of the best trauma managment training you will ever experience, so before you get there - forget everything you know about trauma. You will be blown away by what they can teach you about trauma.

    As far as the flight medic job for the Army, it is just what it sounds like. Beyond 68W school you will go to Flight medic school. You will learn more advanced skills (even beyond paramedic level) and you will learn about the various air-frames the Army operates. You will be assigned to an aviation squadron, and you will work as a member of that crew. Flight medics are deployed quite a bit more often then standard medics, but they are the most highly respected of all 68 series in the Army. After I'm done with this deployment, I have a job lined up with a flight unit. Flight jobs are very hard to get in our state.


    I'll be honest... some days you will regret joining the guard or reserves. You'll just have to join to see what I mean by that.

    But you will be proud that you did it. You will be a better medic for doing it. You will be a better American for doing it.








    Shoot me a PM or post here if you have any questions for me, but it may be a while before I can reply. I'm posting from Afghanistan, and the internet sucks here.
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