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    Default Hostile environment code 5

    Do your guys departments have a way of telling dispatch you guys are under attack and need police ASAP? If we where to become under a very hostile environment our sogs state to say Code 5 to dispatch. This activates all available officers in our county to roll to our location.


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    Being our city is in the crime ridden status that it is, LEO are on scene at pretty much any of our calls. We actually a very good working relationship with the boys in blue and they've been of great assistance in a few situations. If they happened to be tied up and are in need of service, we simply ask dispatch to send them, no code nor catch phrase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skylarmorris89 View Post
    Do your guys departments have a way of telling dispatch you guys are under attack and need police ASAP?
    Yes. It would go something like this... "Dispatch, we're ()@*$ing under attack. Send the (*%#(ing police!"
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmfire View Post
    Yes. It would go something like this... "Dispatch, we're ()@*$ing under attack. Send the (*%#(ing police!"
    Strangly, that sounds just like ours.
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    You see. This is why I asked the question. I would say the same thing, hey Lincom, I'm ****ing under attack! Our dispatch is so stupid though, they said if we ask for police without mentioning code 5, they have to act as if we are terrorist, asking for assistance. (Lincom is our dispatch)

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylarmorris89 View Post
    You see. This is why I asked the question. I would say the same thing, hey Lincom, I'm ****ing under attack! Our dispatch is so stupid though, they said if we ask for police without mentioning code 5, they have to act as if we are terrorist, asking for assistance. (Lincom is our dispatch)

    And yes, we are on Fire Tac Channels.

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    We press the orange button on the portables.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWDbuff View Post
    We press the orange button on the portables.
    Did that once and it was the FD that showed up.
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    Did that once and it was the FD that showed up.
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    Thanks, I've come out of retirement for some reason and figured I had a reason to come back. I can say a lot has changed around here. Don't know the majority of the people here.
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    We are told to call a Code Zero. You'll get the whole of several departments with guns drawn it seems.

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    "Send bodybags and something to clean blood off axes."
    Logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead.

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    I like Johnny's answer.........

    We use the same Police Code..... Signal 13. "Advise the County Police we have a Signal 13 here" is usually all we need..... The Police "Plain English" explanation is "Officer in Trouble, needs assistance" and they provide the same level of Service for us as well. The fact that we have always worked well together helps......
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    I can see the need for a covert way of asking for PD. Probably not the best when you have an agitated crowd to have it blast out of the pump panel "SEND PD, THE NATIVES ARE RESTLESS!!!" or even just in the room with people it could further aggravate the situation if they hear you calling for the cops.

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    At work we hit the emergency button (the little orange one). Our protocol is basically centered on eye contact, everyone knows whats going to happen and when the button is pushed everyone is supposed to turn their radios off, this way when dispatch comes back and asks " Portable 421 do you have an emergency?" we don't irritate the subject further.

    At the vollie house, it will come down to screaming bloody murder or something along the lines of what johnny said.

    Both places we also get 15 min time checks on EMS calls. If no response after 3 attempts for either an EB activation or a checkup, you get the cavalry. (Same protocol for our cops)

    You'll end up getting cops from 2 cities, 2 or 3 townships, state troopers, sheriffs deputies, park rangers, DNR, Watercraft officers, anyone who hears it.
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    We just say 10-103
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    We are told to push the orange button on the radios. The problem is that we have too many false alarms and dispatch normally asks if you are OK several times. I don't remember ever hearing of the button being used for real.

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    We don't have a code - we'll just call for law enforcement if needed and not already enroute. If they're already on the way, we might tell them to hurry up, though.

    Given our poor handheld radio coverage, it usually involves someone going back to a mobile if they aren't already there.

    Given our sometimes sparse police coverage, dispatch usually wants to know why we need a patrol. That's a valid request - if they've got calls stacked up our complaining/pesty bystander may be a problem but isn't as much as a problem as a domestic with weapons and alcohol involved...

    Fortunately, situations where a heretofor uneventful call require immediate police response are rare here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by backsteprescue123 View Post
    At work we hit the emergency button (the little orange one). Our protocol is basically centered on eye contact, everyone knows whats going to happen and when the button is pushed everyone is supposed to turn their radios off, this way when dispatch comes back and asks " Portable 421 do you have an emergency?" we don't irritate the subject further.
    Same thing here only we have a code too. We also have dispatch checking in with us at intervals so if we don't respond or if we give the "need help" code we get everyone.
    Nothing is as unimpressive as someone who is unwilling to learn.

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    No codes. Just we need the police!

    If asked, usually we say crowd unruly!


    Short oldie - One of our companies made a ems call for a shooting. They were working the guy and this civilian, came up and told the members, "I shot that sob for a reason, don't save him"!



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