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    Default Best fabric.

    What is the best fabric for turnout gear on the market ??

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    I prefer Millenia. We have had it for about five years now and it has held up very verywell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlaf911 View Post
    What is the best fabric for turnout gear on the market ??
    That's kind of hard question to answer definitively. It may be more helpful to know what kind of conditions it will be used under or what type of performance you are looking for.

    Millenia is essentially the most "wear resistant", however it can be stiffer and not breathe as well as other fabrics.

    Gemini Matrix
    (aka PBI Matrix) is not quite as "wear resistant", but also tends to be less stiff and breathes better than Millenia.

    Advance is a good mid-level fabric. Very comfortable to wear, but not as wear resistant as some other fabrics. Good choice for departments without significant fire duty and with a limited budget.

    Advance Ultra is basically a combination of Millenia and Advance. Very comparable to Gemini Matrix in performance (lab testing wise), but about $100-150 cheaper per set.

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    I hate to tell you but the old canvas and rubber gear held up better and longer then the fabics out there today!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    I hate to tell you but the old canvas and rubber gear held up better and longer then the fabics out there today!!
    Yep - I wonder if that's by design....
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    I hate to tell you but the old canvas and rubber gear held up better and longer then the fabics out there today!!
    Maybe so, but it was also a lot heavier to wear, didn't breathe as well and offered less thermal protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMedic049 View Post
    Maybe so, but it was also a lot heavier to wear, didn't breathe as well and offered less thermal protection.
    Didn't need more thermal protection when you put the fire out.

    Now you have to fill out your IAP, start you ACT, fill the NIMS vests, have RIT, 4 firefighters on scene (old staffing you had at least 4 to start with on a company,) do your risk assessment, followed by a formal briefing before entry is made, turn in your ACT tag to the Air/ Entry Officer...

    What ever happened to just put the fire out.

    I like the PBI Matrix no problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lexfd5 View Post
    Didn't need more thermal protection when you put the fire out.

    Now you have to fill out your IAP, start you ACT, fill the NIMS vests, have RIT, 4 firefighters on scene (old staffing you had at least 4 to start with on a company,) do your risk assessment, followed by a formal briefing before entry is made, turn in your ACT tag to the Air/ Entry Officer...

    What ever happened to just put the fire out.

    I don't know, but that's what we still do.

    I like the PBI Matrix no problems.
    Ditto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lexfd5 View Post
    Didn't need more thermal protection when you put the fire out.
    We discussed this at the roundtable at the NYS Chief's Expo this past weekend.

    Years ago, when the stuffing was horsehair and the fabrics were all natural things were a lot cooler.

    Nowadays, there's a 55 gallon drum of gasoline in every room.
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