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    Default Frustration of the occupation

    Maybe it is me, but anyone else feel that because of our job we are making the average IQ of the world lower?

    Here is my argument. 80-90% of the people we go help have put themselves in a bad position, either intentionally or by their own ignorance. If it wasn't for people like us saving them from themselves they would thin out the herd. Darwinism at its finest.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my job. Helping people in their greatest time of need, all that good stuff. I get personal satisfaction by doing my best for our customers. I think we are pretty awesome for what we are able to do.

    But occasionally, after saving someone from themselves, I sit and wonder; "If I would have just choked that person instead of giving them life saving care would the world be better?" Especially if they left the Earth before having a chance to procreate, passing their stupid gene on to another generation.

    I truly believe that if all the safety innovations (seatbelts, airbags, safety buttons on circular saws, ground fault electrical plugs...) were taken away for about 30 or 40 years we could thin out the gene pool of stupid people. Sure there would be "collateral damage", a few Nobel Peace Prize winners might die when they get t-boned in an intersection, but the "collateral damage" is for the betterment of society.

    Relax everyone, all spoken out of light hearted frustration and sarcasm. I love this job, just wanted to know if anyone else thinks like me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FiremanLyman View Post

    Maybe it is me, but anyone else feel that because of our job we are making the average IQ of the world lower?

    "If I would have just choked that person instead of giving them life saving care would the world be better?"

    Especially if they left the Earth before having a chance to procreate, passing their stupid gene on to another generation.
    ..........but the "collateral damage" is for the betterment of society.
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    Most of us that have been doing this a long time feel the same way. When I reach that point a nice vacation is in order.
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    As they say, stupid should hurt.

    Unfortunately, by the time you discover who your "victim" is, it's usually too late to step away...
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    Stupid people, accidents, and illness are why we have a job in the first place.

    Think positively, they are job security. Well, at least to some extent.
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    stupid is as stupid does
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    OK... we all agree that some things we do perhaps disrupt "Natural Selection", and perhaps will have a long range effect in future chapters of "On the the Origin of Species", but as Fyred stated so eloquently...

    We have Job Security...


    As long as people do things to themselves or others that defy common sense, there will be a firefighter in the solution.


    I just wouldn't sit around and dwell to much on it...

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    All that time and this is the best you can do? Has the heat got to your head?
    Logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead.

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    That would leave only six or eight people posting on here, bad for buisness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanEMVFD View Post
    When I reach that point a nice vacation is in order.
    Got my first vacation time in a year coming up next month.

    Quote Originally Posted by tree68 View Post
    As they say, stupid should hurt.

    Unfortunately, by the time you discover who your "victim" is, it's usually too late to step away...
    Far too true.

    Quote Originally Posted by FyredUp View Post
    Stupid people, accidents, and illness are why we have a job in the first place.

    Think positively, they are job security. Well, at least to some extent.
    Spot on.

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny46 View Post
    All that time and this is the best you can do? Has the heat got to your head?
    Yes, polar bears don't fair well in Texas come June-July. It was pretty well an unformulated thought. Thanks for keeping me honest.

    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
    That would leave only six or eight people posting on here, bad for buisness.
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    Fine. I missed you.
    Logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinKnight View Post
    OK... we all agree that some things we do perhaps disrupt "Natural Selection", and perhaps will have a long range effect in future chapters of "On the the Origin of Species", but as Fyred stated so eloquently...
    Does this mean we'll be turned away at the Pearly Gates for undoing God's work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFDACM02 View Post
    Does this mean we'll be turned away at the Pearly Gates for undoing God's work?
    No... it just means that some people will be late for their meeting date at the gate...
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    The sad thing is - the emergency services role in "defeating natural selection" is just a drop in the bucket compared to the out of control social programs that have evolved. In my neck of the woods, it is unreal how many people under 35 are on SSI.
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    Read through the articles on fh.com and some of the threads that have appeared in here.

    The fire service has enough incidents that show we are not all that much better.
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    WE need more stringent selection requirements, and the gene pool needs fewer lifeguards and more chlorine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLSboy View Post
    WE need more stringent selection requirements, and the gene pool needs fewer lifeguards and more chlorine!
    What he said!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLSboy View Post
    WE need more stringent selection requirements, and the gene pool needs fewer lifeguards and more chlorine!
    Chlorine makes everything better...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinKnight View Post
    Chlorine makes everything better...
    along with.....
    more cowbell!
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W1lll5Z3Q8
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyChiefGonzo View Post
    along with.....
    more cowbell!
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W1lll5Z3Q8
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    Quote Originally Posted by voyager9 View Post
    And bees.. and a porcupine.. and..
    That which has been seen cannot be unseen!
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    I try to view the bright side. In these economic times, the more stupid people around, the more secure our jobs are =)
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    But, how far do you want to take it? Let people die in house fires because they were too "stupid" to bring their electrical wiring up to code? Too "stupid" to set up an emergency rope ladder in the second story of their home so we wouldn't have to set up a ladder to get them out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by auxman View Post
    But, how far do you want to take it? Let people die in house fires because they were too "stupid" to bring their electrical wiring up to code? Too "stupid" to set up an emergency rope ladder in the second story of their home so we wouldn't have to set up a ladder to get them out?
    Please stay calm. I don't think anyone said they wouldn't do the job and 'let' anyone die. We were discussing how people cause many of their own issues. If that is stupidity...
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    The job of the fire department is to deal with other people's problems. Whether they caused their own problem or not is irrelevant. If anyone gets frustrated by that, they're probably in the wrong business.

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