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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyChiefGonzo View Post
    Quints, and the personnel assigned to them are "Bi-Trucksual"
    Bite me! Although it is not my PRIMARY assignment. T.C.

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    In South Florida we really don't have true "Truck" companies like there are up north. Some departments do, but they are often staffed bear minimum and often never utilized.

    One of the biggest departments down here, Miami-Dade uses Quints which they call Aerials. Although MDFR also has a fleet of Engines, the aerials function based on their arrival on the call. First due will work as an engine and pull lines and pump, while 2nd or 3rd can be backup engines, catch a hydrant or work as a truck. (I dont work for MDFR, if i'm wrong please correct me).

    In my department, we're supposed to have 3 "trucks" in service at all times, but for a few years now one has been out. Our ladders are staffed with only 2. We have one 100' Platform truck, which is designated Platform __ and the other ladder is a TDA designated Ladder __. We also have a spare quint, that functions as a ladder when the ladder is OOS or an engine when an engine is OOS.

    These ladders do not perform any "truck" work (unless we need to raise the stick). Although they have all the equipment, they are usually parked down the street. The medic units will grab tools off of the ladders and perform the "truck" work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyckftbl View Post
    Whether truck or ladder, the correct term for the members that ride them are "sh*tty cooks" or similiar.
    Hey, when you're busy working all the time who has time to cook
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnVBFD View Post
    Hey, when you're busy working all the time who has time to cook

    Engine crunches are not considered work! Lol
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    On the "Left Coast" and in my local Area a "Truck" is classified by "Type".

    As defined by FIRESCOPE a Type 1 Truck (which is what our 100' Quint is) has (at a minimum):
    Truck Company
    Truck (Radio Call)

    Aerial (Specify platform or ladder): 75 Ft.
    Elevated Stream: 500 GPM
    Ground Ladders: 115 Ft.
    Personnel: 4

    A Type 2 Truck has (at a minimum):
    Aerial: 50 Ft.
    Elevated Stream: 500 GPM
    Ground Ladders: 115 Ft.
    Personnel: 4

    These are the minimum standards set by the State. In the past I worked on a Type 2 Truck that the FD called a Medic Engine, but when we arrived on scene we operated as a Truck. Our FD that we shared boundaries with also used us as their Truck for that area.

    To me, as a Truck Captain I know if my local FDs Trucks are Ladders, Platforms or a Squirt so when they respond into my Area I know what they're bringing me so a designator for each doesn't make a difference or help me. If I need a Ladder I have the flexibility to ask for a specific Unit, if I need a Platform same situation. To me, if the Crew can't effectively, efficiently and safely operate as a Truck Company than I don't want them or have a use for them because they're really just a glorified, over-sized Engine Company. Also the number of manpower is important, but refer back to my comment on the capabilities of the Crew.
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    After doing some more research, a lot of South Florida Ladder/Truck's are actually Quints. It seems thats the big thing down here. There aren't too many "dry" ladder trucks in the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rescue101 View Post
    bite me! Although it is not my primary assignment. T.c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    Good God Man, Just when we thought we'd seen the last of the "Ten Code", you go and revive it....... What are the "NIMS Nambys" (Closely related to "Safety Sallys") Gonna do now??.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyckftbl View Post
    Engine crunches are not considered work! Lol
    Sure they are...especially when the engine has a high RAM (runs after midnight). I just wish they would call you guys on like cell phones or something....that beeboop thing is annoying when I'm in the clouds....



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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyChiefGonzo View Post
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    "Truck" is a widely used term in our area. In my career department, we exclusively run 100' RM dry tower ladders, and they're all called "Truck X."

    Many years ago (25+ years ago, really) all of the trucks at work were called "Aerial" ... until they hired a dispatcher who couldn't pronounce the word, so we ran a bunch of "Earls" according to his vernacular. Therefore, they were changed to "Truck" and all the world was right.

    In Richmond, the second quint on a multi-unit assignment is dispatched as "Truck X" to denote who's supposed to be responsible for truck work on arrival.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    What about Chicago's snorkels? Are they "trucks" or "ladders"?
    They are Squads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceman26 View Post
    They are Squads.
    Now you've done it....
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    All the snorkels are part of Squads and that's just what they're generally/generically referred to as as well as officially labeled as i.e. Squad 2, etc. But then you'll hear people singularly refer to that part of the squad as the snorkel so who the hell knows!! It's a gray area! ha. They definitely are not referred to as ladders ever.

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    Default Truck vs Ladder

    We call it whatever we want...
    all have their own choice.

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