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    Default The Rookie spilled AFFF on the Engine Room Floor

    Our newest addition to our firehouse spilled about 1/4 gal of AFFF on the Engine Room floor. Now what? Copious (layfireman: alot) amounts of water isnt working. It does remind me of the some snow I saw in Colorado 2 yrs ago (my now happy place), since someone set the thermostat to h*ll here in Dallas. I need to get this stuff off though. Any suggestions?


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    absorbant???

    call the manufacture?????

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    Okay, it is a little late for this suggestion but the first step should have been to try and absorb as much as possible with rags or paper towels and get it up off the floor. Or maybe with a mop and ringer bucket. THEN try rinsing the rest off the floor.

    When I was a CFR firefighter we accidentally discharged about fifty gallons of foam solution onto a road on base. This was water/foam mixture at 6%. We used over 1000 gallons of water to try and get it off the road. We thought we did a great job until the next rain storm. The road foamed up like a bubble bath and we started all over again washing the road off with an inch and a half.
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    The new "green" shreaded newspaper stuff got some of it off, but wow we had a mess earlier. After water, absorbent, squeegee, and self drying, it is an apparatus room floor again. I know when we back the Engine in while it is raining, it is going be bad.

    The manufacture option would have been too obvious during damage control. I will call them and update.

    Thanks

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    The manufacture read the MSDS sheet to me which we already read and followed. The last part states to flush with water until no foam is seen <----That was funny when she said that. We will get it fixed. I didnt know if this has happened to anyone before and could offer some advice. Thanks guys, be safe!

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    Something similar happened a while back at the station I ride out at. The Driver-Engineer (D.E.) fired up the engine in the morning to test the pump and flowed water to the red line (1" booster line) at the back of the engine. Well, the previous shift had used it and forgot to close the nozzle all the way. It was cracked up a little. Well...I stood by the pump with the D.E. watching him test the pump. Needless to say, when I walked behind the engine...there was foam everywhere...inside the apparatus bay.

    We ended up just using some push brooms to push it into the drains. I don't think they used a lot of water for fears of making more foam. It took a while. The floor was clean though...
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    Grab the Rookie by the ankles and make multiple passes across the floor with him by his ankles to make sure the bulk of it is absorbed. Then give him a scrub brush and a bucket and have him scrub till it's all gone.

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    If it ever happens again...

    take up as much as possible with absorbent like paper towels or rags. Then pressure wash the hell out of it.
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    1/4 of a gallon??? on the apparatus floor? You cant booster the floor until its diluted enough, or down the drain?

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    ive always just used a garden hose and kept washing the foam down the drain, never had that much on the floor but eventually it will go away.

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    The boot spilled it and you're cleaning it up?
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    I get the feeling *you* spilled it, and the probie just happened to be the only witness.

    The best thing to turn down the stink? Apply "copious" amounts of TRUTH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkylinePCG View Post
    I get the feeling *you* spilled it, and the probie just happened to be the only witness.

    The best thing to turn down the stink? Apply "copious" amounts of TRUTH!

    Ha!
    I've seen something like this happen on "A" Shift, they do something, but not enough, and "B" Shift ends up with the problem. Great minds think alike, and the mess is left for "C" Shift........... You get the idea........
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    I've seen something like this happen on "A" Shift, they do something, but not enough, and "B" Shift ends up with the problem. Great minds think alike, and the mess is left for "C" Shift........... You get the idea........

    I agree Harve.

    BTW I think the OP did it as why would he post that any way. Just hose it down and be done with it.

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    Pour it over the entire floor, That way it will look the same
    Bring enough hose.

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    Try putting straight armourall on the floor, let it sit for a bit them wash.

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    We diluted it enough. We used a guys pressure washer and a water hose from the station. Our initiall problem was the amount of foam that was created. We have these enviromental geeks running around the city making sure the city employees are following the rules. The foam over ran the storm drain bypass and moved into the street. I should have taken a picture or a video (funny stuff). The B-Shift came in and thought they could fix it, as usual they couldnt, and elected to not tell C-Shift.

    I think we got it though. When/if we get rain here in Dallas we will see if it is good when we back the Engine in wet.

    The new guy really did spill it.

    Be safe!

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