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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyD0pe View Post
    The instructions to change your address with DCAS are very simple and they are on the joinfdny page on FB. Just mail them a simple letter and they will send you back a letter of confirmation. To change your address with FDNY I did it over the phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBorn View Post
    What's the traditional way they are allowed to use the 1 in 3 rule?
    I don't think it's a rule. I think it just happens to end up at that ratio when people's failures/dq's/etc are factored in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bkopie View Post
    I don't think it's a rule. I think it just happens to end up at that ratio when people's failures/dq's/etc are factored in.
    The 1:3 hiring ratio and the 1 in 3 rule are two different things. There are a number of fire departments around the country that use the 1 in 3 rule when hiring. Basically, for every 3 that are eligible to be appointed, 1 will get it. I've heard of Philadelphia doing this, but the FDNY does not.
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    I thought thought it was civil service law. Something to the affect of they can look at three people to hire one. I don't know the details but I'm pretty sure NYPD does it as well. I am sure MM or some one with chime in with those big brains and break down the knowledge for us.

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    Historically, sometime after the war, veterans would return to the city and began seeking work. Civil service has always offered benefits to vets and their skill set is perceived, usually, as pretty applicable/transferable. In those days most men would take several of the available tests and go with the best job that was offered in the shortest amount of time.

    There has also been instances where certain groups, neighborhoods or families have persuaded relatives to seek, or hold out for, a specific job. Some of those guys got on jobs because of hooks, while others accepted their own cost benefit logic and held out.

    There are also a number of stories where guys tested for one job and did poorly and wound up taking another gig because it was/seemed less competitive.

    Fast forward to today and the workforce has shifted largely into the private sector but the competition still remains high for jobs like firefighter and that results in what people generally use as the 1:3 hiring ratio logic.

    Like it was previously said, it's not like they have three guys come in for an interview and one walks out with a job. The ratio is attributed to general attrition throughout the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4040clubBouncer View Post
    Historically, sometime after the war, veterans would return to the city and began seeking work. Civil service has always offered benefits to vets and their skill set is perceived, usually, as pretty applicable/transferable. In those days most men would take several of the available tests and go with the best job that was offered in the shortest amount of time.

    There has also been instances where certain groups, neighborhoods or families have persuaded relatives to seek, or hold out for, a specific job. Some of those guys got on jobs because of hooks, while others accepted their own cost benefit logic and held out.

    There are also a number of stories where guys tested for one job and did poorly and wound up taking another gig because it was/seemed less competitive.

    Fast forward to today and the workforce has shifted largely into the private sector but the competition still remains high for jobs like firefighter and that results in what people generally use as the 1:3 hiring ratio logic.

    Like it was previously said, it's not like they have three guys come in for an interview and one walks out with a job. The ratio is attributed to general attrition throughout the process.
    In regards to NYC hiring, this is incorrect. The 1 in 3 as it applies to NYC civil service can be found in the second paragraph on the below link:

    http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcas/html/wo...lservice.shtml

    I really think you guys are confusing the 1:3 ratio for attrition with the FD for this similarly named rule. The ratio can change, i.e: 1:3.5, 1:4, etc. However, the 1 in 3 rule is a rule, not a ratio and has nothing to do with how many candidates on the list are deemed unqualified for medical, physical & background reasons.
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    I've never heard of anyone not getting on for any other reason besides being DQ'q for some specific reason. I don't really see them looking at 3 guys and picking the best guy out of the 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwm326 View Post
    In regards to NYC hiring, this is incorrect. The 1 in 3 as it applies to NYC civil service can be found in the second paragraph on the below link:

    http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcas/html/wo...lservice.shtml

    I really think you guys are confusing the 1:3 ratio for attrition with the FD for this similarly named rule. The ratio can change, i.e: 1:3.5, 1:4, etc. However, the 1 in 3 rule is a rule, not a ratio and has nothing to do with how many candidates on the list are deemed unqualified for medical, physical & background reasons.
    Couldn't they use the candidates they deem unqualified to be the 2 they eliminate? The rule seems to state top 3 scorers, not top 3 qualified (i.e. pass all checks/tests). That may be why the ratio always seems to be 1:3

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    there is no 1 out of 3 rule, can you imagine them doing that at the top of the list? Certainly NYPD does not use this Can you imagine the law suits the City would be inundated with? Each candidate gets his shot to pass all the processing steps and in the past it has worked out to about 1 out of every 3 or so candidates.

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    In regard to paragraph 2 of that link, they are referring to slots that are opening one at a time. In this scenario, the City/State would have to at the very least interview the next 3 highest scores for the open slot (they can't just call in the high score guy and give him the job). I just went through this process w state DHSES.

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    Just to be clear, I never said the City of New York utilizes the 1 in 3 rule for the FD. I was just simply pointing out the difference between the ratios we have referred to since the beginning of this forum regarding med, physical & background drops and the 1 in 3 rule that other departments within the city adhere to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyD0pe View Post
    You get to choose what borough you want to work in.
    You don't get to choose where you want to go, they tell you to list what boroughs, and then they make the final decision. They do try and work with you, but they can place you where they need people the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFwnt2b View Post
    You don't get to choose where you want to go, they tell you to list what boroughs, and then they make the final decision. They do try and work with you, but they can place you where they need people the most.
    I know. Anyone house would be the best house for me. I just want to get on. From what I hear most people get placed in the first or second borough they choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyD0pe View Post
    I know. Anyone house would be the best house for me. I just want to get on. From what I hear most people get placed in the first or second borough they choose.
    While that's true, if your #1 and 2 are Brooklyn and Queens that could mean many, many different things.

    To anyone that is living at home now: I'd generally suggest staying at home for the academy. It's much easier, and cheaper. The only downside is they will base part of their decision on where to assign you on your parent's address.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan Medic View Post
    While that's true, if your #1 and 2 are Brooklyn and Queens that could mean many, many different things.

    To anyone that is living at home now: I'd generally suggest staying at home for the academy. It's much easier, and cheaper. The only downside is they will base part of their decision on where to assign you on your parent's address.
    This was probably going to be my one and two...(live in queens) what are the many things this means? I was thinking of having brooklyn as first choice
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldblood92 View Post
    This was probably going to be my one and two...(live in queens) what are the many things this means? I was thinking of having brooklyn as first choice
    Every borough is huge and the options for where you could be sent in each are incredibly varied.

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    So I got a call earlier today as my paperwork is under final review.

    So far the only issue was they said I was missing proof of residency from June 24-July 1. 7 days. So I sent them the next months statement which covered those 7 days.

    But talk about picky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jky9xx View Post
    So I got a call earlier today as my paperwork is under final review.

    So far the only issue was they said I was missing proof of residency from June 24-July 1. 7 days. So I sent them the next months statement which covered those 7 days.

    But talk about picky.
    list number? I hope its 9xx like your name

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manhattan Medic View Post
    While that's true, if your #1 and 2 are Brooklyn and Queens that could mean many, many different things.

    To anyone that is living at home now: I'd generally suggest staying at home for the academy. It's much easier, and cheaper. The only downside is they will base part of their decision on where to assign you on your parent's address.
    I was thinking the same thing. My parents live in LI so if I choose queens they most likely place me in eastern queens but I'd rather go to the higher risk neighborhoods in western queens. Therefore, I'd probably won't choose queens if I remain in my parents house and go with Manhattan or Brooklyn.

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    Yes I'm low 900's

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyD0pe View Post
    You get to choose what borough you want to work in. Also, the pay is posted online. I need to move regardless for the academy because I am not commuting from LI. Also, for a young single dude with no kids like myself the starting pay is more than enough to live on my own, pay my bills and still have some left over lol.
    Im planning on moving to Long Beach, NY when I get in.. You think this is a bad idea?

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