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    Ughh so I did well on my promotional test at DSNY, I suppose it's not a bad problem to have but now I gotta decide between staying or leaving. While FF has always been my dream job, the financially smart decision is to stay at Dsny, I know money isn't everything though. But at some point life gets in the way. Realistically I'm looking at winter 2015/2016 academy, where I'll prob he promoted by then. So I could be a 2nd rank or go back to beginning. I'll prob be able to take test for 3rd rank superintendent before I'm even at top pay for a FF. I've never felt more weighed down and stressed about a decision as I have the past few days. This will literally change my entire life. Sorry for the rant, just venting, I really don't know the right path, all my loved ones just give me the generic advice, do what makes you happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirEd View Post
    That's a good point that the longer the list goes on, people will find other alternatives and will not join. I agree with that to an extent, however, knowing how difficult it is out in the private work force most people won't find a better alternative.

    Because of the high paying benefits of the FDNY, which would be similar to saving millions of dollars over the course of your private employment, you are really better off taking the FDNY when compared to most private jobs. I think most people are too young to be in a private job that would pay better than the FDNY when taking into account the benefits.

    I'll also say this, when I went to the rock and saw the people at the practice session a few months back, most people didn't look very academic. Nothing that you would see at a university (well maybe a city college). I think most people who have better alternatives never took the FDNY test. I didn't take the FDNY test years back because I considered the job beneath me. However, when I got older and actually calculated the salary, work hours, and lifestyle benefits, you can't beat the FDNY job unless you were a doctor or a very good Lawyer, or will take over a family business.

    The other big factor is if you are smart you have to calculate that you will easily make chief rank on the FDNY and they get paid a lot of money. You really have to take this into account. It will be interesting how these higher ranks will work out now that the FDNY is drawing smarter people into it, it may be very competitive, just like this OC test is.

    It will be interesting to see. Most likely it will stay close to the last list, about 570 candidates. I will still lean towards it being lower.

    BTW. I think the police can switch to the FDNY and keep the years on the job and salary rate.
    You have some nerve talking down on the brothers of this great department and the "unborn" striving to get on this job. Sorry you didn't see a bunch of preppy hipsters training to become firefighters... That's generally not the FDNY target demographic! You once believed this job was beneath you? Are you kidding me? My biggest fear is going down a dark hot hallway with a pencil pushers turned Johnny fireman who only took this job for the money, benefits and schedule. Those are the guys that will run the other way when **** hits the fan. Make no mistake... This job is not just a great economic play to combat a downhill economy. People get severely injured on this job and people die on this job. No salary, schedule or pension package in the world is worth anyone putting their life up for ransom. It's much bigger than that for us. This job is a calling and if it's not in your heart it's probably not for you. A lot of guys want to wear the jersey but when the time comes they don't want to get on the field!

    I have no ambition in this world but one, and that is to be a fireman.
    The position may, in the eyes of some, appear to be a lowly one; but we who know the work which a fireman has to do believe that his is a noble calling.
    Our proudest moment is to save lives
    Under the impulse of such thoughts, the nobility of the occupation thrills us and stimulates us to deeds of daring, even at the supreme sacrifice. Chief E Croker
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    PS... Congrats to the brothers and sisters who will be swearing in tomorrow and welcome to the best job in the world! Good luck and don't quit... It gets better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirEd View Post
    I'll also say this, when I went to the rock and saw the people at the practice session a few months back, most people didn't look very academic. Nothing that you would see at a university (well maybe a city college). I think most people who have better alternatives never took the FDNY test. I didn't take the FDNY test years back because I considered the job beneath me. However, when I got older and actually calculated the salary, work hours, and lifestyle benefits, you can't beat the FDNY job unless you were a doctor or a very good Lawyer, or will take over a family business.
    Definitely plenty of blue collar/ex-military on the list. I took all the civil service tests and did very well on all of them. I think anyone that lives in NYC should take those tests to give yourself options. I mean, why not? I also took Nassau County PD and got called for that. Entering the academy will definitely be more appealing to a kid working an hourly construction gig or retail job rather than someone with a degree who maybe has an office job already, and doesn't want to take a substantial pay cut for a few years.

    My friend is an accountant for one of the big four firms and wouldn't take the test with me because he couldn't see the sense in going down to $39k, as he was making $65+ base at the time. I still say he should've taken the test to give himself the option, although he makes around $100k with bonus now. It'd also be very difficult to afford a home in our middle class neighborhood (Average home price $610k) relying on the $76k base, and settling for a home in a neighborhood with slightly poorer schools and slightly more crime isn't very appealing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSNY2FDNY View Post
    Ughh so I did well on my promotional test at DSNY, I suppose it's not a bad problem to have but now I gotta decide between staying or leaving. While FF has always been my dream job, the financially smart decision is to stay at Dsny, I know money isn't everything though. But at some point life gets in the way. Realistically I'm looking at winter 2015/2016 academy, where I'll prob he promoted by then. So I could be a 2nd rank or go back to beginning. I'll prob be able to take test for 3rd rank superintendent before I'm even at top pay for a FF. I've never felt more weighed down and stressed about a decision as I have the past few days. This will literally change my entire life. Sorry for the rant, just venting, I really don't know the right path, all my loved ones just give me the generic advice, do what makes you happy.
    If you can swing it financially go for FD. You only live once.

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    Middle class neighborhood homes at 610k average? I guess I grew up poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EKFCASPER View Post
    Middle class neighborhood homes at 610k average? I guess I grew up poor.
    I don't know man times are changing. I was raised in a middle class Staten Island neighborhood, my parents bought their home for 160,000, it's on the market now for 500,000. Honestly finding a nice home in the same middle class neighborhood I grew up in that isn't a town house for less than 5-600k isn't that easy anymore.

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    I've gotten a lot of help from this thread. Sitting at high 20xx and I thought that I would share information with those of you just getting packets. For all those who are getting packets now, but are likely going to be in the July 2015 class, you should start working out now as though your only shot at making the FDNY is by giving every workout your best. For those of us who were on the cusp of this winter's class, we were invited to the Fitness Assessment Program. What they showed us is the type of workout that we'll be doing in the academy. Here is the workout that they showed us:

    5 minute warm-up with jumping Jack's, jogging in place, butt kicks, high knees, and jumping rope

    10 burpees with pushups, 10 body weight squats, 10 front and side raises with 10 lb dumbells, 10 in and outs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxCCTimatsM), 10 shoulder press with 10 lb dumbells, and then 10 pushups. Immediately, we then did a cycle of 9 burpees, 9 body weight squats, etc, and then once the circuit of 9 was completed, we did a circuit of 8 reps. After this, we took a 30 second to 1 minute water break. Following this, we did 7,6,and then 5. We then took another break. Finally, we did 4,3,2,1. Overall, it took 35-40 minutes and we had only 2-3 minutes of break. This workout, plus a 2.5-3 mile run, will be one of the workouts we do the first week of the academy apparently.

    For those of you just getting your packets right now, I want to emphasize how tough this workout is. I would suggest that everyone try this workout as soon as possible. You will likely alter your workout regiment, like I did.

    The reason that I want to bring this up, is that I think it would be an a shame if anyone drops out of the academy because they are not up to the physical standards. This job is an incredible opportunity, and if you don't put in the work in the next 6 months then you may not be able to get through the academy.

    I'm not sure if this will benefit anyone, but I thought that I might share the workout plan that I've been following for the last 2 months.

    Day 1: Workout that I've described above plus 3 mile run (If you've mastered the above workout, you might want to start cycling up until you give out- 10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1,2,3,4,5)

    Day 2: 3 mile run Do pullups as well today. twentypullups.com has a great workout

    Day 3: one of the two workouts described on page 1007 of this thread http://www.firehouse.com/forums/t121675-1007/ (FDNY Exam 2000) thank you bk60191983 for helping me out

    Day 4: break

    Day 5: 6 mile run.Pullups

    Day 6: other workout described on page 1007.

    Day 7: split up the 1.5 mile run into 4 sprints, and run each sprint 10% faster than your goal pace. http://www.menshealth.com/mhlists/be...10_Minutes.php Pullups.

    Day 8: Rest

    Other odds and ends: I would suggest signing up for a 5k or better yet a 10k over the next few months. Some of the instructors have said to be able to do 21 minutes for 3 miles and 40 minutes for 5 miles. My 10k time has dropped by 6 or 7 minutes in 2 months by following this workout plan. Part of the reason that I wanted to post this workout is so people train in the right manner. I did not train in the right manner until end of October, though I did work out hard.

    Other Other odds and ends: Buy a gripmaster on amazon. They are cheap and make sure that you do this once a day to improve your grip strength. I get a notification on my phone so that I make sure to do this once per day.

    Good luck to everyone that started the academy today.

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    One year from now, I hope I get the call like the brothers who started the academy today.
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    What I'm about to say is my opinion and my opinion only but I really don't think people sign up for this career path to get rich. I have friends who have been otj for years and most are married with kids living comfortably in the boroughs or Long Island. Not one of them took this job with thoughts of becoming rich but helping a city which they love. If money is a priority (and I have tons of friends which this is the case) they never even wanted the option of this career. This is a dangerous job and most people can't hack it. Follow your heart brothers.

    Good luck to everyone getting sworn in today. Hope ill be with you in the summer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDEngine View Post
    Damn ... that pic gets my hype !
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    there's definitely a couple of opportunistic heads in here just looking for a buck rather than respect for the job. there's plenty of safe & well-paying desk jobs for you guys to fill. (I would hate to be next to ya when it comes to having your brother's back in the line of duty). I have a radiology degree myself making great money and I can speak on my behalf. I, too, am taking a HUGE pay cut taking on this job but the thought of waking up everyday knowing that I love what I do can't be compared to any salary. To some, your salary is what defines you. To others, family, love, and respect is what defines them. So to each his own I guess. The last thing you want to do on here is inject some negativity in here & disrespect the job itself. This isn't a blog for career advice but rather a way to find extra motivation and understanding of the process for those who really believe in this job. It's been made pretty clear at the rock by now that this job is far from misinforming the candidates. Every time we have a talk with some of the FF, they constantly remind us that some of us WILL die or get severely injured in this job. If that doesn't shake you up a bit then God bless you my friend. Other than that, I think it's pretty straight forward. So if salary is what's actually shaking you up, or you feel like the job is beneath you..then do the brothers that are seeking this job and also those already on the job a favor and go sit at a desk for 80+k a year and live happily ever after.


    on a positive note, today is finally that day for some of you, much respect and good luck. hopefully the rest of us can get through this efficiently and sooner than later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDEngine View Post
    Dam this makes me want to leave work and run lol.

    Thanks for the workout 4G. This sounds very similar to a crossfit type workout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirEd View Post
    That's a good point that the longer the list goes on, people will find other alternatives and will not join. I agree with that to an extent, however, knowing how difficult it is out in the private work force most people won't find a better alternative.

    Because of the high paying benefits of the FDNY, which would be similar to saving millions of dollars over the course of your private employment, you are really better off taking the FDNY when compared to most private jobs. I think most people are too young to be in a private job that would pay better than the FDNY when taking into account the benefits.

    I'll also say this, when I went to the rock and saw the people at the practice session a few months back, most people didn't look very academic. Nothing that you would see at a university (well maybe a city college). I think most people who have better alternatives never took the FDNY test. I didn't take the FDNY test years back because I considered the job beneath me. However, when I got older and actually calculated the salary, work hours, and lifestyle benefits, you can't beat the FDNY job unless you were a doctor or a very good Lawyer, or will take over a family business.

    The other big factor is if you are smart you have to calculate that you will easily make chief rank on the FDNY and they get paid a lot of money. You really have to take this into account. It will be interesting how these higher ranks will work out now that the FDNY is drawing smarter people into it, it may be very competitive, just like this OC test is.

    It will be interesting to see. Most likely it will stay close to the last list, about 570 candidates. I will still lean towards it being lower.

    BTW. I think the police can switch to the FDNY and keep the years on the job and salary rate.
    I understand what you're saying but I don't think you should judge books by their covers. I could easily be mistaken as any hipster walking around Brooklyn. I have a master's degree in humanities and plan on going to law school one day down the road. But right now this is my number one priority, because realistically, 99% of people don't get to live out their childhood dream job. NO ONE is beneath this job, because when it hits the fan, the salaries and stock portfolios of those trapped in a fire don't really matter.

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    Great photo! Gets me going! I just hate that they have to point out that there is people of color and females in the academy. What does it matter? Fires do not discriminate. To avoid racism and segregation the best way is to forget about it and not talk about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EKFCASPER View Post
    Great photo! Gets me going! I just hate that they have to point out that there is people of color and females in the academy. What does it matter? Fires do not discriminate. To avoid racism and segregation the best way is to forget about it and not talk about it.
    couldn't agree with you more man. its so obvious i feel like they're unconsciously making it worse by consistently pointing them out.
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    They really don'y need to point out race
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehulk View Post
    They really don'y need to point out race
    Race and gender are " sensational " topics that get people fired up.

    Sensational sells papers, makes you click on the link, turn to the channel etc etc ... so the media prioritizes and prints this.

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    Had my intake today. Couple of you guys were late. Or not wearing business attire. To each his own.

    Pretty good process. Sit in the front left if you wanna go first only about 25-30 guys there today.

    A little disconcerting intake with my investigator though. She seemed a little scattered and I struggled to communicate with her.

    I'm going to stay positive. I left not missing any documents.
    Rumor mill: June academy. And those of us who are going before the years end are in the running for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4040clubBouncer View Post
    Had my intake today. Couple of you guys were late. Or not wearing business attire. To each his own.

    Pretty good process. Sit in the front left if you wanna go first only about 25-30 guys there today.

    A little disconcerting intake with my investigator though. She seemed a little scattered and I struggled to communicate with her.

    I'm going to stay positive. I left not missing any documents.
    Rumor mill: June academy. And those of us who are going before the years end are in the running for it.
    As far as the personal references, must we take in a typed form itself? or just provide their names and mailing address at intake? checked the application last night and there's no mentions about references. although someone posted awhile ago that names and mailing address should be enough as they send them a form to fill out anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grown Simba View Post
    As far as the personal references, must we take in a typed form itself? or just provide their names and mailing address at intake? checked the application last night and there's no mentions about references. although someone posted awhile ago that names and mailing address should be enough as they send them a form to fill out anyway.
    Yeah your investigator will give you three forms (one for each reference). You need the name and addresses of each reference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fndyoneday View Post
    Yeah your investigator will give you three forms (one for each reference). You need the name and addresses of each reference.
    Yea what he said. I also brought a copy typed out. When you get your papers copied throw it in there. Can't hurt. In the end you go through a lot of documents and if they lose a reference sheet that's another day of phone tag. I offered my references typed up and they accepted it along with the forms I had to fill out.

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    fdnyoneday & 4040clubBouncer thanks for the clarity guys

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