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some of the questions seem like they require some kind of previous reading or knowledge that pertains to fire fighting. Like the proper way to work while standing on a ladder, with out an explanation as to why its the right way. I have to have another look, I could be remembering it wrong.
Most tests now-a-days do not require any prior knowledge of the fire-fighting service, for example the question you read about "How to operate a while standing on a ladder?"Quote:
Originally Posted by BrooklynBorn
I would just let those questions go by the way-side. Tests now basically go over the basic grammar, math, sciences, spelling etc...as well as the newer formats to test job skills in the field. For example, "You stepped on a old ladies flowers while fighting a fire, and she got upset with the you." They may ask what should you do in the situation and give you 4 answers to choose from etc.
A) Punch her in the face.
B) Say you're sorry, and explain to her it was not intentional.
C) Walk away and not say anything.
D) Tell her to shutup, it was either save your house, or let it burn.
I figured that and knew it was one of the reasons they are using the new test makers. I honestly don't even know if it's worth it to study any of those books.
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Originally Posted by BrooklynBorn
PSI is the company they are using. The book I mentioned is one (among others) that PSI recommends studying from. Do what you gotta do. But like I said:
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Originally Posted by roadrunner09
Roadrunner, this test is similar to the LAcoFD test. Look at the format on the website. Also the Baron's book is a lot better in this regard to covering everything that could be on the test. Also to everyone else, if this is following the LAcoFD test you have to realize that the personality part of the exam will be the main separating point for most people. You can't study your personality (unless you're an FBI BAA) but you can think as you would do in the situations they give you.Quote:
Originally Posted by roadrunner09
I haven't spent much time on this particular link, but did take the 2000 test and IMO, was the easiest written I ever took. However, when it comes to such a general knowledge test as that one, the questions are and pretty much have to be basic. For instance it can give you an example of "you are a FF, blah, blah" and then answer the question, but it can't ask a question like "What is the steam expansion ratio of water on a fire?" or other fire certified specific questioning.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigandy
The only way fire specific questions can be asked is if either certifications or education is required to take the test (which FDNY is not, since it is an open test) or if you are provided a study guide. Now I have seen the Baron's and other test book examples of a civil service test, but unless a dept gives a specific study guide, it can't ask specif FF related questions. So as such is the reason you see such test geared to basic reading, writing, math, etc and not specific FF questions.
I actually have that book. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by roadrunner09
You took the new FDNY 2000 test? or am I misreading that.Quote:
Originally Posted by jccrabby3084
Probably meant the test in 2000, which of course there wasn't one. crabby, did you mean the test in '02?
Anyone know how many signed up for the promotional test?
Hey Roadrunner09 whats the name of the book that you mention that PSI recommends using?
I remember minerva was nice enough to post a link to sample questions that you could pay PSI to view. I went back and tried to find the link but couldn't. I think it was PSI, not sure.
I pm'd him
ditto....can you PM me. thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by eyebrowike
i saw a few pages back someone said the math was difficult but the noe does not allow calculators/cell phones. when i took the la city test we were allowed calculators
Yes, it was the 2002 test,Quote:
Originally Posted by ffbam24
don't drink and type
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What am I supposed to do with my spare time then?Quote:
Originally Posted by jccrabby3084
I remember reading an article where it was said that the judge needed to sign off on exam 2000 beforehand, and in doing so he wouldn't be able to invalidate the results after he signs off. Is that a legal fact/agreement or more like the opinion of the author of the article I am thinking of?
Not sure if any one knows, but I am wondering if legally he can throw out the test again. If so at what point(if any) can the city appeal or get a new judge on the hiring part of the trial.
Or Facebook for that matter, some horrific stories that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by jccrabby3084
MoH recipient Dakota Meyer is looking to join the FDNY, but missed the filing period by hours. It looks like during his trip to NYC, the sacrifice and tradition of the FDNY had an impact on him...If they can make an extension for a parade, they should make one for him... SPREAD THE WORD!!
Merit Matters PRESS RELEASE
Friday, September 23, 2011
It has come to our attention that Congressional Medal of Honor recipient Marine Sgt. Dakota Meyer is seeking an extension of the filing period so that he may file to take the upcoming FDNY Firefighter entry test...but is meeting resistance to his request.
Extension of the filing period for this test has, in the past, been a common practice. In fact, it was just extended this past weekend so recruiters could attend a parade and sign up those who didn’t file an application during the allotted two months. Sgt. Meyer was in New York this week for events connected to his act of unbelievable bravery when he first became aware of the test and expressed an interest. Unfortunately, he expressed that interest a few hours - yes, hours - late.
We are calling on the Department of Citywide Administrative Services, the FDNY, Mayor Bloomberg and any and all other interested and proper agencies and officials to do whatever it takes to give the first living Marine since Vietnam to earn the Medal of Honor the opportunity to become one of New York’s Bravest. There is absolutely no excuse not to - NONE. If the reasons for extending the filing period this past weekend or for past tests have been valid, then there is absolutely no excuse for not granting Sgt. Meyer’s request.
I know there will be a groundswell of support for what we are urging in this Release. All interested members of the media, elected officials, civic and other leaders can contact us and we will coordinate with those closest to Sgt. Meyer. All receiving this message are urged to make phone calls, forward this message and take any other action to make this Marine’s wish come true. A Medal of Honor recipient wants the opportunity to serve the city of New York- let’s make sure he gets that opportunity.
Paul Mannix
President - Merit Matters