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    Maybe i'm just being too positive about this but, I just don't see how this test is not going to get accepted. that would mean that another test has to get developed and how long is that going to take... FDNY is short in man power by more than 650 last time it was brought up to me and its only going to keep on getting worst. Overtime is killing the city's pockets right now so i just don't see how it wont get established.

    On another note for those of you who have been trying to get better at running, 3 months ago i started running places with alot of hills and inclined paths, after doing this i have bettered my first 1.5 miles from around 10:20 to 9:00 flat. Just thought it might help others.

    Keep training guys, its coming soon.


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    Maybe i'm just being too positive about this but, I just don't see how this test is not going to get accepted.



    Sorry to tell you bud,,,,but that is a very LIKELY scenario......word is going around that the judge does not like the results of the new test. This is why the results have not been made yet...

    He is waiting for the fairness hearing before he makes any move.......He is stuck between a rock and a hard place bc he made a terrible decision in regards to 6019....and now what happens if the NEW results are similar or even worse??!?!?! He cant just let the new test be valid but 6019 still be banished,,,,he would no doubt give every penny he could to any black that is undeserving bc he wants to screw over bloomberg.... Even the Vulcans are asking him to move forward with everything.

    Doesnt matter hjow much money the city spent on the new test....Do you know how much money they spent and wasted on 6019 that was the MOST DIVERSE EVER!!!!! He has really ****ed with everything that has been right with the system and now there is no turning back..

    He knows hes made his bed and now he has to lay in it...which means not giving in to anything.
    Which means a new test with same results will be thrown out just like every other test we would take.

    Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting diff results.... so dont try and get your hopes up when he makes a ruling after the fairness hearing that its either racial quotas or its nothing at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC33017 View Post
    Maybe i'm just being too positive about this but, I just don't see how this test is not going to get accepted.



    Sorry to tell you bud,,,,but that is a very LIKELY scenario......word is going around that the judge does not like the results of the new test. This is why the results have not been made yet...

    He is waiting for the fairness hearing before he makes any move.......He is stuck between a rock and a hard place bc he made a terrible decision in regards to 6019....and now what happens if the NEW results are similar or even worse??!?!?! He cant just let the new test be valid but 6019 still be banished,,,,he would no doubt give every penny he could to any black that is undeserving bc he wants to screw over bloomberg.... Even the Vulcans are asking him to move forward with everything.

    Doesnt matter hjow much money the city spent on the new test....Do you know how much money they spent and wasted on 6019 that was the MOST DIVERSE EVER!!!!! He has really ****ed with everything that has been right with the system and now there is no turning back..

    He knows hes made his bed and now he has to lay in it...which means not giving in to anything.
    Which means a new test with same results will be thrown out just like every other test we would take.

    Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting diff results.... so dont try and get your hopes up when he makes a ruling after the fairness hearing that its either racial quotas or its nothing at all.
    Obviously this clown judge will do whatever he wants...but..a few things are different to this test then to 6019...

    1) didn't they have the test format changed to accommodate..make it easier?
    2) didn't a court appointed person over see the process?
    3) they extended the test process specifically to recruit more African Americans..
    4) The recruitment video focused on ALL minorities..
    5) didn't the Vulcan's visit prospective African Americans to ensure they completed the process?

    So, really, there is nothing more that can be done to make it fair..the city followed guidelines to make the test "more fair" see.."easier"..These results should be approved..because if 6019 wasn't approved by this judge because it wasn't fair, and the city went ABOVE and BEYOND any other testing process to ensure as much diversity then before..with a new test, and extending the registration period..and get the same results, then it is what it is..and no one can dispute that.

    I'll pay to take the test as many times as needed..I'd sell my soul to wear the FDNY patch and represent the city and citizens of NYC.

    Oh yea, if you provided proof of unemployment, then you could test for free..

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    Say the results of the 2000 are similiar to the 6019, is there any chance they will hire from the 6019? Never took that one and hope thats not the case.

    Furthermore, if you failed the 2000, not only should you not be a firefighter in the FDNY but you should probably enroll back into middle school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC33017 View Post
    Sorry to tell you bud,,,,but that is a very LIKELY scenario......word is going around that the judge does not like the results of the new test. This is why the results have not been made yet...
    Where are you hearing this? Unless you have a good source, please don't post speculation. I think DJ would back me up when I say bad information is worse than no information. Every so often someone posts a negative rumor on here and then all of the posters freak out for a couple of days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC33017 View Post
    Sorry to tell you bud,,,,but that is a very LIKELY scenario......word is going around that the judge does not like the results of the new test. This is why the results have not been made yet...
    Wow this guy right here must know friends and family members of the judge to hear these rumors because i am sure that the judge doesn't discuss this with total strangers. So if you do know these people enlighten us with what the judge is thinking bro, if not keep your "word is going around" to your self.

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    Just curious but if everything goes down with no ****ery and we're lucky enough to get in, the strength test to get into the academy is 1.5 miles under 12 minutes or 11 ? And it's 30 push ups, 30 sit ups, and 3 pull ups ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomFromQueens View Post
    Just curious but if everything goes down with no ****ery and we're lucky enough to get in, the strength test to get into the academy is 1.5 miles under 12 minutes or 11 ? And it's 30 push ups, 30 sit ups, and 3 pull ups ?
    1.5 miles in less than 12*, 4 pull ups (not chin ups), everything else you got on the money. Fail the run then your automatically out, fail the rest by a few and your put in remedial training ( worst thing that can happen to you because ALL eyes will be on you.)
    Last edited by Jukez; 09-17-2012 at 01:56 PM.

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    Bored at work so I perused the 2nd circuit court of appeals calendar on their website to see if the city's appeal decision was anywhere on the horizon. The calendar only seems to go up to Oct 27th so far and there isn't anything slated that has to do with the FDNY on it. Called the number for the court to see if I could get any info at all about the case but they were tight lipped (didn't know anything) and about as surly and useless as you'd expect a federal employee to be on a Monday. All I gathered was that the public wouldn't know when the decision was til after it happened.

    Like I said I'm bored at work haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC33017 View Post
    Maybe i'm just being too positive about this but, I just don't see how this test is not going to get accepted.



    Sorry to tell you bud,,,,but that is a very LIKELY scenario......word is going around that the judge does not like the results of the new test. This is why the results have not been made yet...

    He is waiting for the fairness hearing before he makes any move.......He is stuck between a rock and a hard place bc he made a terrible decision in regards to 6019....and now what happens if the NEW results are similar or even worse??!?!?! He cant just let the new test be valid but 6019 still be banished,,,,he would no doubt give every penny he could to any black that is undeserving bc he wants to screw over bloomberg.... Even the Vulcans are asking him to move forward with everything.

    Doesnt matter hjow much money the city spent on the new test....Do you know how much money they spent and wasted on 6019 that was the MOST DIVERSE EVER!!!!! He has really ****ed with everything that has been right with the system and now there is no turning back..

    He knows hes made his bed and now he has to lay in it...which means not giving in to anything.
    Which means a new test with same results will be thrown out just like every other test we would take.

    Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting diff results.... so dont try and get your hopes up when he makes a ruling after the fairness hearing that its either racial quotas or its nothing at all.
    I am ignorant to the legal process but I would think that a higher court would step in a validate the test, if not the quota thing with have to go to another court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knicksh2o View Post
    Say the results of the 2000 are similiar to the 6019, is there any chance they will hire from the 6019? Never took that one and hope thats not the case.

    Furthermore, if you failed the 2000, not only should you not be a firefighter in the FDNY but you should probably enroll back into middle school.
    and they should take away the test takers drivers license and keep them from operating any heavy machinery.

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    Sorry for the triply post but I was just wondering, What the soonest the rest of us could possibly be taking the CPAT? I am trying to organize my training. I have been spend too much time doing the major lifts and not enough time doing conditioning work.

    Does any one remember where to find the height/weight requirement chart? and at what point we have to be that weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jukez View Post
    1.5 miles in less than 12*, 4 pull ups (not chin ups), everything else you got on the money. Fail the run then your automatically out, fail the rest by a few and your put in remedial training ( worst thing that can happen to you because ALL eyes will be on you.)
    Fail the run, and you get sent back to the medical office. You're most likely out, but it's not a guarantee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBorn View Post
    Sorry for the triply post but I was just wondering, What the soonest the rest of us could possibly be taking the CPAT? I am trying to organize my training. I have been spend too much time doing the major lifts and not enough time doing conditioning work.

    Does any one remember where to find the height/weight requirement chart? and at what point we have to be that weight?
    All I know is that I was 5 ft 10 (bull**** since I'm 5 11 lol), but I had to come back in for an additional weigh in. I believe I had to get below 216. You can prob add a few lbs per inch based on that height and weight requirement.

    Also I would quit with any heavy lifting you're doing now. If I can give any type of advice, you shouldn't be doing any weight training where you're not doing a minimum of 12 reps. The physical and the academy is highly repetitive lifting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomFromQueens View Post
    Just curious but if everything goes down with no ****ery and we're lucky enough to get in, the strength test to get into the academy is 1.5 miles under 12 minutes or 11 ? And it's 30 push ups, 30 sit ups, and 3 pull ups ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jukez View Post
    1.5 miles in less than 12*, 4 pull ups (not chin ups), everything else you got on the money. Fail the run then your automatically out, fail the rest by a few and your put in remedial training ( worst thing that can happen to you because ALL eyes will be on you.)
    Quote Originally Posted by vekdoggs75 View Post
    All I know is that I was 5 ft 10 (bull**** since I'm 5 11 lol), but I had to come back in for an additional weigh in. I believe I had to get below 216. You can prob add a few lbs per inch based on that height and weight requirement.

    Also I would quit with any heavy lifting you're doing now. If I can give any type of advice, you shouldn't be doing any weight training where you're not doing a minimum of 12 reps. The physical and the academy is highly repetitive lifting.
    13 to 12 is remediation, 12-under passing, 13 over failing.

    And DC, NO ONE HAS HEARD ANYTHING!

    Moving on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by River6019 View Post
    Bored at work so I perused the 2nd circuit court of appeals calendar on their website to see if the city's appeal decision was anywhere on the horizon. The calendar only seems to go up to Oct 27th so far and there isn't anything slated that has to do with the FDNY on it. Called the number for the court to see if I could get any info at all about the case but they were tight lipped (didn't know anything) and about as surly and useless as you'd expect a federal employee to be on a Monday. All I gathered was that the public wouldn't know when the decision was til after it happened.

    Like I said I'm bored at work haha.
    Here is a link to check the 2nd Circuit decisions daily: http://www.ca2.uscourts.gov/opinions.htm

    Be advised, you are looking for an opinion.

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    [QUOTE=BrooklynBorn;1340926]Sorry for the triply post but I was just wondering, What the soonest the rest of us could possibly be taking the CPAT? I am trying to organize my training. I have been spend too much time doing the major lifts and not enough time doing conditioning work.

    If your preparing for the CPAT I can help, i helped recruits prepare for it down in the DC area for several depts. and we had really good success esp. with getting light weight women (105-115 pounds) to pass.

    The main things i can tell you to adjust in your workout now is workout your legs primarily. MOST recruits who fail are lacking in leg strength and endurance. Its not about upper body first, much like the job, the legs need to carry the majority of the work.

    Next focus on exercises that keep your heart rate up. A heavy focus on body weight exercises mixed with a cardio element will go a LONG way. An example would be going on a 2 mile run and dropping down to do a set of push-ups every quarter mile.

    Lastly, and I can't stress this enough, get familiar with the events in CPAT, the order they are in, what disqualifies you, and how much time you should spend doing what. Many depts use CPAT as their entry level physical exam so info on it shouldn't be to hard to find. It gets painful to watch when some people (mainly overconfident males) get in there and walk the wrong way or make mental mistakes cause they didn't take advantage of having the ability to see the test before they take it. Don't be one of those guys who are as physically prepared as well as anyone but are poorly prepared mentally.

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    I am 5'7 how much can I weigh? I guess I am gonna have to call recruitment and see if they know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I3akdraf View Post
    Lastly, and I can't stress this enough, get familiar with the events in CPAT, the order they are in, what disqualifies you, and how much time you should spend doing what. Many depts use CPAT as their entry level physical exam so info on it shouldn't be to hard to find. It gets painful to watch when some people (mainly overconfident males) get in there and walk the wrong way or make mental mistakes cause they didn't take advantage of having the ability to see the test before they take it. Don't be one of those guys who are as physically prepared as well as anyone but are poorly prepared mentally.
    If you check out youtube there are a bunch of videos of people doing the CPAT

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