here is what the city has came out and said
Of the 41,764 people who took the Open Competitive exam, 40,864 passed. However, in light of our hiring needs over the next four years, we expect that in addition to those who took and passed the promotional exam (870) only those candidates who scored a 97 or above on the Open Competitive exam (8,548) have a likelihood of being considered for appointment.
Breakdown of Likely Hires by ethnicity 9,417 Total (869 Promotional added to 8,548 Open Competitive list)
5,045 total (53.5%) 2,131 total (22.6%) 1,859 total (19.7%)
351 total (3.7%) 31
Breakdown of Likely Hires by Gender 9,417 total
Male 8,980 total (95.3%)
Female 437 total (4.6%)
[Its worth noting that the total percentage of minorities on this likely-to-be considered list (46%) is nearly identical to the percentage that took the Open Competitive exam (45.7%)].
Case in point:
“The cost of a probie firefighter is far less than paying overtime,” said Rush. Stephen Rush is a FDNY Assistant Commissioner in charge of Budget and Finance. You couldn't have a more credible source than the man who crunches the numbers for a living and was put on the stand by city attorneys to prove this to Garaufis.
I appreciate your valuable input Les....didn't think i'd hear from a coastie...I'm thinking MK and as far as A-school goes...AD wait time for that school is 9-12 months right now...not sure about reservists..I'll ask my recruiter about it, before I received my scores I was going to go AD with the guard but considering I just got married and I want the best of both world..I think FF as my primary occupation is the best deal while i pick up some other skills and reap the benefits...those education benefits could come in handy when I go for my masters in a field where i can get per diem work on the side...Again thank you man.
What you got against coasties as a former BM2 I take offence. Lol
I wish I could locate the source, but I recall reading that the true cost of hiring a proby is between 200-250% of base pay. That means somewhere between $72,000 and $90,000, both figures exceed what a 2nd grade firefighter makes WITH overtime. While that doesn't include his pension, it doesn't matter, you're already paying that amount whether you hire or not.
This is a stupid argument. The city will hire, they'll hire 300 every 18-20 weeks for the next 4 years, unless something dramatic happens. Stop arguing from an ill-informed position. We read every dept. order, some of us go to every union meeting and every Merit Matters meeting. It is in our interest, just as it is in all of yours, to know what's going on out there. We want to know what's happening with the future of this job and a few of us are here to help.
I should probably call DCAS and get this sorted out soon. I graduated HS in '09, so it doesn't make sense for them to accept my diploma when it is a year before the period they request, even though I wasn't 21 yet when I took the exam.
I quoted the post because they quoted the Asst. Commish and I knew about his quote because I was in the court room when Mr. Rush said it.
Just like the city, you chose to cherry pick numbers as well. You well know that when Mr. Rush, who has held is position since 1987, said this the department still had the fifth man. If you guys still had the fifth man, the number you'd be down would be closer to over 1000 right now.
I do agree with you on one thing, it is a stupid argument. It's just hard for me to not defend myself when my statements are correct.
Also, might wanna check this out guys
Although, we did get OT in the form of "Other" or something like that when we didn't get out on-time.
Time and a half of not much is still not much at time and a half.
Good to see another on here who is interested in the future of the job.
When were the candidates from the promotional exam first notified to begin processing such as the 12 - week CPAT course?
Was it in August or September?
I believe the reason the first class will be entirely promotional is because they probably hoped that they would be able to get a full class off that list, and they could process the entire promotional list at the same time without having to first tell candidates scores, so it saved them roughly a month or so in time, as opposed to if they had to wait for the lists to be released.
Congrats to everyone within striking distance. I've noticed a few of you mention lasik. Groupon currently has a deal, $1795 for both eyes. The procedure is being done by Manhattan Lasik Center. Does anyone have any feedback regarding the facility.
Just opened my folder with all the papers from the 6019 process... Time to replace it with the exam 2000 stuff. First thing to go in... Dcas score & list number notice...
Time to start a new folder.
I have some extra if you need one.