FDNY Exam 2000

[grok350]

Account finally got activated bn following since results were posted list # 107x very excited hope with a little luck can make the first class of OC

Congrats hope to see you there

[HopefulFF]

Did they establish a list like this in the past, before the physical? How do you think they will choose who gets to take the physical? Will they allow the whole 8500 to take it right away or will they do it only a class worth at a time.

they did this with 6019. They'll start to process people as they have a shot of making an academy class.

[eng1irons]

Scored a 102, list number 1xxx. I don't know if i'll leave the NYPD, tough decision.

Did we figure out how they grouped the scores? There are several hundred people ahead of me with the same score, was that done via lottery?

[IronFireE5]

I've also been following this thread closely for almost a year now and finally just decided to come out the wood works. I scored a 101.. which was disappointing because it meant I had a raw score of only 91. I thought I would have gotten at least a 95. The extra points were a big deal breaker for many.

I have a close friend who was really really enthusiastic about getting on the job. I saw him the night before the list came out and explained to him that anybody who scores lower than a 97 has no chance. When the list came out the next day I actually searched for his name first instead of mine. He got a 93, about 17,000 spots away from number 1.... my heart sank as I knew right then and there he had no chance. I then searched my name... It was a bittersweet moment.

I'm glad im on the boat but the journey just begins now... CPAT, medical, psychological, background investigation (not necessarily in that order), then academy. If all goes well I should be in the 2nd of 3rd class, if not I'll be here again in another 4-5 years taking my last shot at the test.

[skeetz111]

Did they establish a list like this in the past, before the physical? How do you think they will choose who gets to take the physical? Will they allow the whole 8500 to take it right away or will they do it only a class worth at a time.

What's the deal with first 8500? Is that all they will call? What u guys think historically speaking? I thought pretty much 97 and up, or at least up to list 9000 from what I heard from other guys on the job.... Any one hear differently?

[Jukez]

I've also been following this thread closely for almost a year now and finally just decided to come out the wood works. I scored a 101.. which was disappointing because it meant I had a raw score of only 91. I thought I would have gotten at least a 95. The extra points were a big deal breaker for many.

I have a close friend who was really really enthusiastic about getting on the job. I saw him the night before the list came out and explained to him that anybody who scores lower than a 97 has no chance. When the list came out the next day I actually searched for his name first instead of mine. He got a 93, about 17,000 spots away from number 1.... my heart sank as I knew right then and there he had no chance. I then searched my name... It was a bittersweet moment.

I'm glad im on the boat but the journey just begins now... CPAT, medical, psychological, background investigation (not necessarily in that order), then academy. If all goes well I should be in the 2nd of 3rd class, if not I'll be here again in another 4-5 years taking my last shot at the test.

What list number range are you in bro?

[Geschaefer]

The "under" headcount number will greatly increase once new hiring begins.
There are lots of current Fire Fighters who will retire once all this OT goes away for them. - So dont let the preliminary numbers get you upset.

Additionally; I hate to beat an old drum; but I truly think that those who were to be hired under 6019, and who were actually offered employment have a real shot at taking legal action against the City.
The lawyer who I was dealing with during that time gave up on it. - He didnt want to fight the City.
Ive read many case law's on "rescinding hiring offers" since this all began; and it seems that in trial the case generally favors the person who had the offer rescinded.
I do believe that the City has some obligation to at least consider those 6019'ers who were to be hired.
Like I said - the guy I was seeing about this wants nothing to do with it; but perhaps someone here knows a lawyer / firm that may be interested in this pursuit.

[IronFireE5]

What list number range are you in bro?

17XX

The headcount number will greatly increase once new hiring begins.
There are lots of current Fire Fighters who will retire once all this OT goes away for them. - So dont let the preliminary numbers get you upset.

Additionally; I hate to beat an old drum; but I truly think that those who were to be hired under 6019, and who were actually offered employment have a real shot at taking legal action against the City.
The lawyer who I was dealing with during that time gave up on it. - He didnt want to fight the City.
Ive read many case law's on "rescinding hiring offers" since this all began; and it seems that in trial the case generally favors the person who had the offer rescinded.
I do believe that the City has some obligation to at least consider those 6019'ers who were to be hired.
Like I said - the guy I was seeing about this wants nothing to do with it; but perhaps someone here knows a lawyer / firm that may be interested in this pursuit.

I think we might know each other.... you actually told me about this job several years ago when I had no clue about it. Anyway...


I could understand if you bombed this test but why even open this can of worms if youre in the clear anyway?

[Geschaefer]

Duplicate post - sorry

[Jukez]

17XX



I think we might know each other.... you actually told me about this job several years ago when I had no clue about it. Anyway...


I could understand if you bombed this test but why even open this can of worms if youre in the clear anyway?

17xx here too bro. Guess we have a good chance at getting screamed at together haha.

[Geschaefer]

17XX



I think we might know each other.... you actually told me about this job several years ago when I had no clue about it. Anyway...


I could understand if you bombed this test but why even open this can of worms if youre in the clear anyway?

I can thankfully say that I am in hiring range, and am looking forward to joining the ranks; however, I cant stop thinking about the poor people from 6019 who were to be hired - and are now "Not" in hiring range. - Beyond that most of them are too old, or will soon be too old to take any future exam.
Its really heartbreaking.
I honestly believe that (particularly) the 150 who were offered a probationary position on December 7th 2008; with an effective starting date of January 4th 2009 have far more rights to this job - or recoverable damages than those who failed the tests back in 99 and 2000. I believe I read an article stating that these 293 direct hires had upwards of 70% incorrect answers.

I do not wish to open a can of worms; but this is not justice.
I believe that the rescinded hiring offer for these people was a knee jerk from the mayors office and not base upon any real concerns.
I believe that theres a case for these people who will now never be FDNY:

Promissory estoppel - by the City
Fraudulent misrepresentation - by the City
Breach of contract - by the City
Discrimination - by the Justice Department

While we all rejoice - these 6019'ers are probably feeling at an all time low. I think that they should take any means necessary to rectify their situation and that they should be given 100% support of anyone who wishes to one day call themselves Firefighter

[BrooklynBorn]

if they haven't already they should ask the lawyers who worked with merit matters to recommend a lawyer or a tell them if they have a good case, since they are so familiar with the details. I would guess this has all already happened thou.

[NYgrad2012]

Do you think the FDNY would be flexible in terms of documents needed for the residency points?

[Combat medic 92]

Yes, they have to be. Especially for the young guys who had no bill under their names.

[BrooklynBorn]

they say those people just need a NYC high school diploma.

I actually have never lived any where else, might just be able to find the three documents needed. I don't keep much in my name.

[Manhattan Medic]

What's the deal with first 8500? Is that all they will call? What u guys think historically speaking? I thought pretty much 97 and up, or at least up to list 9000 from what I heard from other guys on the job.... Any one hear differently?

If you read the law department release that has been linked here and many other places they state that their best guess for how far down the list they will go in canvassing for candidates over the life of the list is anyone who got a 97 or higher, or roughly the first 8500 people. Only time will tell if they actually do canvas that far down or not, it really sucks for the last 1-2000 people, but if your # is higher than that then I would start making alternative plans and moving on. Anybody young enough to be eligible for the next test should consider EMS if this is the ultimate goal.

[ridonc]

Has anyone looked at how many people claimed Legacy credits? The count is about 125 people....Given that there are only about 400 police/fire that valiently gave their lives, I don't think its possible that 125 people could qualify for legacy taking into account the number of kids and siblings that those 400 hero's have....That being said, has anyone heard of instances where people get legacy credit for a non-parent/sibling? For example a step-brother or step-son?

[NYgrad2012]

Right. I am over 21 but don't quite have much in my name. Will call FDNY to find out more info in terms of documents and will post on this board asap.

[FFTB]

Damn I got a high score and im in the 3xxx zone... Wonder how all of this is gonna go. Anyone know how many FF the city is planning to hire in general?

[Manhattan Medic]

Has anyone looked at how many people claimed Legacy credits? The count is about 125 people....Given that there are only about 400 police/fire that valiently gave their lives, I don't think its possible that 125 people could qualify for legacy taking into account the number of kids and siblings that those 400 hero's have....That being said, has anyone heard of instances where people get legacy credit for a non-parent/sibling? For example a step-brother or step-son?

Legacy can be used if your parent was a LODD at any time for FDNY/NYPD. The 9/11 thing is only for siblings. I am willing to guess 99.9% of the people that claimed it were sincere, and I would not question it, that's for Candidate Investigations/DCAS. I can't imagine lying about legacy credits.