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    they will have those free classes eventually but as of right now they are not announced. I don't think many people know exactly what the test is like yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deluge059 View Post
    Thanks Mom.

    WHAT I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.... *pause* is...

    HISTORICALLY, what is the lowest possible score one can get and still have a chance at getting hired? 99, 98, 97? That is if, someone takes the test who doesn't have any preference and misses only one question, do they stand a chance? Or is even scoring 100 not enough.


    Catch my drift?
    Your question was answered. 100.13 was the score of the last list number reached for the hires of 6019. There will literally be tens of thousands of people taking the exam. Many of these applicants will have one or both of the credits. If you have no credits, you cannot afford to get anything less than 100% of the test correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deluge059 View Post
    Thanks Mom.

    WHAT I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.... *pause* is...

    HISTORICALLY, what is the lowest possible score one can get and still have a chance at getting hired? 99, 98, 97? That is if, someone takes the test who doesn't have any preference and misses only one question, do they stand a chance? Or is even scoring 100 not enough.


    Catch my drift?
    the only point of reference i have is the 02 exam, a buddy of mine got in with a 96% and no points in the second to last class

    Quote Originally Posted by FDNYPD View Post
    Your question was answered. 100.13 was the score of the last list number reached for the hires of 6019. There will literally be tens of thousands of people taking the exam. Many of these applicants will have one or both of the credits. If you have no credits, you cannot afford to get anything less than 100% of the test correct
    no it wasn't that was my score and i didnt get hired, i think it was like 100.4 or something like that
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    So are we all screwed if we aren't minorities?
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    To get the veteran's credit, you do need to be a NY State resident. I believe also it would have to be established at the same time as the City Residency for it to be accepted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyNY View Post
    So are we all screwed if we aren't minorities?
    Yes. This has got to be illegal. Who's talking to the pro bono lawyers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ffbam24 View Post
    To get the veteran's credit, you do need to be a NY State resident. I believe also it would have to be established at the same time as the City Residency for it to be accepted.

    The special consideration said that in order to qualify for Veterans/disabled Veterans points you need to be a resident of NYS by the time of appointment or promotion..
    That is the same requirement as getting the job..in order for hiring you need to be a resident prior to appointment..It did not state a specific time line like the residency credit..
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    I should have cleaned up the chili.....why didn't I clean up the chili!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepyHollow View Post
    the only point of reference i have is the 02 exam, a buddy of mine got in with a 96% and no points in the second to last class
    THANK YOU!
    This is the answer I have been looking for.

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    Very well. I'll talk to my buddy and see if we can root out the answer here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGriffC12 View Post
    list# 886? How many people did they actually hire? I've been through a few processes already and I find it hard to believe that that many people had their stuff together..in 4 years. I would have thought that the list number reached would be in the 3-4000s..
    It's not that the FDNY didn't aspire to look past #886 but due to budgeting woes then a strangle hold on hiring by a judge who wanted a quota based hiring system the mayor decided to not hire at all if hiring wasn't based on merit. List #6019 only seen one class hired way back in July 2008 i believe. Another class was prepped and ready to go (and still is IMO) but we're still waiting for a final decision from this judge. There are a few news articles which sum up the last few years if your looking to do research, just search under "FDNY disparate impact," that should do the trick.

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    Although there may be many that get both credits, that doesn't necessarily mean that those same people will get perfect scores. Sleepy Hollow can probably help me out on this, if I recall correctly, on 6019, I think there was only 1200-1300 list numbers with a score of 100 of better.

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    If the physical portion of the test does increase in difficulty, are they looking to increase the mental and physcial aspects or just the physical. Will they change from an obstacle course to an endurance test? Right now, I like the CPAT because it makes you use your brain and follow directions while you are tired unlike its counter-test of "run this far, do this many push ups."

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    What was the old physical exam like? Anything like the FBI agents physical?

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    basically like the cpat, except the events were individually timed
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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepyHollow View Post
    basically like the cpat, except the events were individually timed
    The old physical was much more difficult than cpat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyckftbl View Post
    The old physical was much more difficult than cpat.
    when did they do away with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBorn View Post
    when did they do away with it?
    The last exam. The flood gates opened when the then UFOA president endorsed the IAFF CPAT.

    Guess who retired from the FDNY and promptly recieved a job from the IAFF???

    The old physical was too easy as well...but at least it was more difficult than the current one and it was competitive not pass/fail.

    This job and this country are screwed with this kind of illogical regressive thinking and policy. We champion and reward the weak and incapable and punish and discourage the strong and motivated.

    A loosing proposition as there ever was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFFRED View Post
    This job and this country are screwed with this kind of illogical regressive thinking and policy. We champion and reward the weak and incapable and punish and discourage the strong and motivated.

    A loosing proposition as there ever was.

    FTM-PTB

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyckftbl View Post
    The old physical was much more difficult than cpat.
    I don't remember exactly what it was, wasn't it the Cpat, but with s longer step mill and individually timed events, but the same events?

    Should have talked to my guy google before I said something

    http://www.marunde-muscle.com/forum/...ead.php?t=3872

    Same events, same order just individually timed
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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepyHollow View Post
    I don't remember exactly what it was, wasn't it the Cpat, but with s longer step mill and individually timed events, but the same events?

    Should have talked to my guy google before I said something

    http://www.marunde-muscle.com/forum/...ead.php?t=3872

    Same events, same order just individually timed
    The CPAT was a joke compared to the last event. Here is the CPAT order:

    * Stair Climb
    * Hose Drag
    * Equipment Carry
    * Ladder Raise & Extension
    * Forcible Entry
    * Search
    * Rescue
    * Ceiling Breach & Pull

    The Old Physical:
    1.
    Stepmill
    5 minutes and 12.00 seconds

    2.
    Ladder Raise
    15.81 seconds

    3.
    Hose Feed
    18.19 seconds

    4.
    Hose Advance
    46.33 seconds

    5.
    Forcible Entry
    10.95 seconds

    6.
    Search
    95.66 seconds

    7.
    Rescue
    23.80 seconds

    8.
    Ceiling Hook
    20 repetitions in 4 one-minute sets

    For the old physical you wore 25 lb vest and a 25lb tank. Same weight throughout but for the taller guys the tank would get caught in the hose advance. Also the ceiling hook was a total of 20 reps. The CPAT is only 5.

    Whether or not we take the CPAT, the Old Physical or the Navy Seals physical... TRAIN YOUR ARSE OFF!!!

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    Thanks, Neal. That's exactly what I was looking for.


    Any of you guys who have previously gone to written exam prep classes have a recommendation? I'm guessing our best bet will be to find a free one the city is giving deep in the Bronx? The only other ones I've seen are like $450, which is worth it if the course is that good but it def feels like they're taking advantage of ppl they know will pay anything for the job.
    Last edited by HopefulFF; 07-19-2011 at 10:05 AM.

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    its always deep in the bronx?

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    lol no...i was kidding....kind of.

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    They have free test prep classes? sorry, was in Iraq in 2006

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